the chapo boys repeatedly told us nothing was going to happen
there's nothing happening, it's a just a bunch of disorganised maga chuds putting on a shitshow without any coherent plan. biden is gonna take office, trump is gona set up his "hello president" tv show and we will forget this happened in a couple of months until someone says "remember when a bunch wild magas attacked the capitol" and you'll be like "oh yeah! that was two months ago???"
It's all just spectacle...all the blue check marks talking about chaos be under their covers regularly flipping the pillows and what not
I mean nothing is actually happening, these rubes aren't going to overthrow the government.
No, but imagine these morons manage to get shot. Imagine these rubes becoming some fucked-up kinds of martyrs for all the trump fanatics.
We kinda had a test run of that with that one dude on the Malheur wildlife sanctuary a few years ago, chuds haven't really seemed to hold him up as a martyr.
Didn't Ammon Bundy come out supporting BLM? Lmao
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Bundy spoke directly to those in opposition to defunding the police in the video.
“You must have a problem in your mind if you believe that Black Lives Matter is more dangerous than the police,” he said. “You must have a problem if you think Antifa is the one going to take your freedom. You must be hypnotized by these social media code words or by conservative talk show hosts.”
He said these “code words” were in reference to different terminology used to control public perception, like with the negative associations attributed to defunding the police.
“No,” he said,” defunding the police is what we should do.”
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/08/03/asd-ammon-bundy-stands-in-support-of-black-lives-matter-effort-to-defund-police/
wtf based bundy??!?!? i thought those were the dildo hicks what a wild world
Nah, Daddy Bundy touted the Black Panthers during the ranch standoff, he was using old timey language so it sounded racists if you cutoff the audio before he finished his statement, which is what the MSM did, and Fox news stopped promoting him because well he was touting the Black Panthers.
i feel so bad for roasting when i was a reddit who woulda thought libertarians got something right jesus
She isn't dead as of now, but either way, the worst is still to come, as most of these guys are fanatics and are armed. They won't leave peacefully.
Alt right shoot out against police wasn't on my bingo card for before Biden took office but here we are
Damn how could a bunch of wealthy white crackers get something wrong
It's entirely unthinkable that some brooklyn libs weren't right about something
Lol. They pull in 6 figures a head at the end of the day, and in NY that's not obscene. Y'all complain about the weirdest shit.
Complaining about their Patreon haul is a pastime from the old subreddit. After the recent drama, let's just bask in the nostalgia of this one.
They make so much money they are basically left-wing grifters. If you donate to these wealthy media personalities you are a cuck
You can't be a grifter of you sell a product that's been advertised honestly. That's not a grift. You can't be a media personality if you have no fucking advertisements, no corporate providers. Getting pissy about success reeks of insecurity. And the cuck thing is weird, go back to the Donald with that shit.
the chapo guys are definitely grifters like any other political commentator. just because you like them doesn't make them less bad. they are businessmen at the end of the day, if they weren't, then why do continue asking for more patreon donations despite having more than enough to live comfortably on?
You can make the same argument about Alex Jones and Ben Shapiro. They are working just as hard - if not more - than the chapo guys
I'll worry when they start selling me vitamins. Sorry no one wants to listen to your podcast bro.
it's funny watching you guys justify donating to people who earn six figures talking about politics twice a week and participating in upward wealth redistribution
You're literally on a fan site with their fucking name in the title.
virtually everyone who donates to the chapo patreon earns less than the average chapo host
upward wealth redistribution with an ironic leftist theme
They don't run this site and I'm not donating to them, don't change the subject m8
Chapo Trap House is a left-wing grift and the hosts are profiting from leftist doomer rhetoric
One figure I saw said that they were making 100,000 dollars on Patreon a month
I know the gulf of influence and actual importance between the person I'm about to name drop and the Chapo hosts is of several orders of magnitude and will probably be pretty cringe, but:
Wasn't Kropotkin a literal Prince.
Point is that class traitors in the Left's favor are kind of a good thing, no?
They weren’t born podcasters. This may sound like royalty apologia, but A: you can’t change who you’re born to, and B: he got exiled anyways
Because America meming itself to civil unrest over this sounded too stupid for even our timeline.
But we have to realise that there is no bottom here. This isn't the stupidest thing that will happen It's the least stupid thing to happen from now on and forward.
meanwhile people on CNN are claiming these are "anarchists" lol https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1346977585209737222
I thought folks would have learned by now: pick the stupidest outcome and expect it to happen.
its especially stupid because the libs are half right. there was a coup its just a failson coup
One way of possibly explaining this is that Matt has been exposed to more of Tom Cotton being Tom Cotton and realized he has less charisma than a potted plant.
Yeah, he does.
Claire McCaskill is clearly still mad about losing to him because she was on MSNBC trying to place the blame for all this squarely on him and Trump.
On one hand, Cotton is smarter than Hawley/Cruz by zagging when they zigged; if the party still belongs to Trump in 2024, neither Hawley/Cruz get the nomination and Cotton gets 2 votes in Iowa after being called a "pencil-necked f*****" by Trump Jr. If it doesn't...
matt did have a realignment post biden winning primaries so i get it.
we're through the looking glass, people. who the fuck knows?
We have 8-12 years imo. This is 1853, we just got rid of Millard Fillmore and bleeding kansas is kicking off. This is 1905, we just had our revolutions dress rehearsal and now the black hundreds are out prawling. This is 1922, the Weimar republic is kicking off and the Nazis are drunkenly smashing shit. We're in a race against time to out-organize, out-arm and out-propagandize against these fascists or they're going to get their Pinochet.
Start organizing for what? The system is already on these people’s side whether they know it or not, these are the most complacent, comfortable people in human history, they have no actual desire for change. Their only real goal as of right now is to keep Trump in power, once that fails they’re just gonna cry about it for a few months until they forget about it. Sure there will eventually be actual fascist uprisings once the collapse really starts setting in, but we’re not there yet even if it seems like we are
Most of the chuds I’ve seen online are straight up rejecting these people and calling them antifa crisis actors. I’m sure some .win freaks are cheering them on but they’re already fascists anyway. The normie chuds don’t like this kinda shit, this is what the uppity blacks and antifas do, not what good god-fearing Americans do
Pretty much lmao, they’ve completely bought into their own propaganda about how they’re all just peaceful concerned citizens who love freedom, and it’s only the America-hating leftists who would ever actually try to overthrow the system or subvert democracy
They’ve successfully fooled themselves into opposing their own brownshirts and it’s funny af
I was literally at work installing some duct in an shipping office. It's full of boomers and one lady comes in talking to the others saying "they're evacuating the congress people because they thing the Trump supporters are gonna start killing them" and they all started laughing as if she couldn't believe for even a second why they would think that. You're absolutely correct.
America is more radical than you think how much evidence do you need?
At this point "the left is too weak" is just an incredibly sad excuse.
So you're giving up for 4-8 years?
Why bother with this site at all then? What's the point? Just shut it down and vote Biden. Organize after I guess. Maybe.
You're right it's hopeless I'm sorry for bringing it up, anyone who does is a fool and I should probably just kill myself.
Good talk.
It's not hopeless it's a game of numbers. Organizing and infiltrating are different things.
Nah you were right before it's hopeless.
No point in trying. material conditions don't matter, the inability of the government doesn't matter, the nature of pandemic politics don't matter. It's hopeless, fuck me for suggesting it's not.
I'm not saying it's hopeless, man. I'm saying this is a good time for radicalization but a bit too early to jump the gun on radical action. Especially like right now. Cops AND CHUDs would be blasting our asses if we tried anything. Doesn't mean all hope is lost.
I'm not following your line. Pina seems to be arguing that these protestors are a wing of the status quo and not in fact radicals. They only got as far as they did because they faced 0 resistance and needed portapotties and a corndog stand present to carry out this action. There were only a few thousand at most and no other protests outside of DC.
This isn't some mass movement, it was a carefully planned and organized event. For contrast, look at the summer protests. Hundreds of thousands marching in every urban center or America. Thousands camping out for days outside the White House. More solidarity protests in cities around the world. That's the radical power we have on our side. We don't need shitters and corndogs.
no other protests outside of DC.
They breached the Kansas statehouse, they were trying in oregon, they managed to get through the gates of the governors mansion in washington.
Still pretty isolated events for the most part. They only faced a violent police force in LA I think? I mean it's terrible, but the biggest reason they're getting this far is police compliance. None of them are really resisting the police. Even in DC, they were just calmly asked to disperse with no tear gas or batons or LRAD. Their numbers aren't that massive. Like 2,000 max in a protest. Even my small town was still having gatherings larger than that 2 weeks into the George Floyd protests.
They don't even know what to do when they get into these places. Some people planted bombs, some people just took selfies, some just started shooting at other protestors. It's just moronic. They aren't organized, they're just going places and standing around for the most part. That's why they needed the food stands, they'd just leave if they got hungry. There isn't any drive to change things in them. They don't have any sort of genuine ideology to organize around. The only reason they're even going out is because they know nothing will happen to them.
Taking the Capitol literally means nothing if they don’t follow it up by actually seizing power or making any demands in the process. We’re already starting to see those same people who stormed the Capitol just turn around and leave cause they never actually planned to do anything other than just walk around and be angry. Their only concrete goal is to keep Trump in power and they’ve already realized they can’t actually make that happen, at least not without genuinely threatening capital which they’re not gonna do considering they can’t even handle being pepper-sprayed, let alone getting into actual armed conflict with the state
Nothing lol this is so obviously staged it is hilarious. What's the purpose? Not 100% sure yet but I think it will become evident later on so let's see.
I think it is totally staged but I don't know who exactly is involved and why. Obviously the police is involved (they're literally aiding them to get inside) but who told them to do that? Idk. Let's see where this goes.
Might be an excuse to purge the country of the instability Trump strengthened by doing something so wild that will cause people to react and say "no more". But I'm not totally sure yet. So many people are spinning it as "populism bad" already.
To be fair nothing is really happening lol no one is taking data from the computers, no one is being held hostage, no one is really doing anything useful.
Not saying these people aren't fascist, but this isn't exactly a reichstag event.
kinda feels like an op ngl. the cops let them in, there's no way they'll accomplish anything, and the perpetual spectre of trump and his nasty powers is good for shoring up support for the democratic party against the left. maybe they're also trying to scare libs away from anything revolutionary
But they haven't learned anything. They literally failed upwards like they always have.
The only people learning anything are the proudboys beating the shit out of people. Granted they're learning to be the freikorps but they're learning.
These folks have had yeeeeeeeeears to get organized. It's obvious that these people never wanted to be organized in the first place, they talk about people wanting handouts and shit, they thought that they could just show up at the capitol and meet 0 resistance (which damn near happened as it was)
Not saying these people aren’t fascist, but this isn’t exactly a reichstag event.
Has the state reclaimed control over the building? If not then it's still early to tell. Don't scoff at things like this.
Apparently they have but people are still outside?
Seems like the chuds want to fuck around outside now.
Yeah, I jumped into a matt stream and it was still just excuses about how the cops let it happen.
Motherfucker these people were fully prepared to take the US congress hostage.
Motherfucker these people were fully prepared to take the US congress hostage.
Except they weren't, if they had been, then they would have. The doors were opened wide for them, and they were practically ushered in. The cops were practically offering them gasoline and matches to burn the place down. The only reason nothing more has happened is because they didn't really want it.
The doors were opened wide for them, and they were practically ushered in
A woman got shot and died trying to break down the door.
Again, if they had been fully prepared, she would not have been the only person trying it, and there would have been people protecting the battering ram. She had a half brained idea, and I don't know what else she thought would happen.
You're absolutely right about how lenient the police/whoever is defending the capitol building has been with the fascists. But take a look, the defense of the congressional chambers was so thin, if there had been the smallest modicum of actual desire to break in there, they would have pretty easily. But nobody opened fire except for the cop that blasted that woman. So no, these folks weren't prepared, and it doesn't really look like they had any real desire to do much more than shit their pants in the streets
They also have an order of magnitude larger population than US leftists.
I honestly don't understand how much has to go wrong and how fucked up things have to get for people on here to realize that the opportunity for the left is here. Now.
The left doesn't have the fucking capability of storming the Capital, dude. The CHUDs were fucking escorted in. Cops would mow leftists down without blinking
If Leftists would storm the building nancy Pelosi would pick up a gun herself.
SO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
Ever since the pandemic started it has been nothing but evidence that America has radicalism ready to be tapped into.
They're halfway through their day encouraging people to commit federal crimes so they deserve a lunch break
4 hrs created, 33 posts in 2 hrs...damn, I'm a very cynical person but they're literally posting like it's their job.
Like what? You either storm the castle and take someone important hostage or you storm a state capital and get fucking mowed down by the national guard in three hours.
