people who actually get shit on neoliberal policies are the kinds of people we should be reaching out, not some shithead named Dave Bavelhoff who owns a jetski repair shop.

  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Lefties who never interact with any right wingers are kinda useless in my books.

    unless you got a good reason (sick or minority that generally gives you no ground with right wingers)

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        lol i editted just as u said the thing i needed to edit in

        edit: but otherwise i stand by what i said.

    • BillyMays [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Horrible take. You don’t need to be interacting with anyone you don’t want to and telling other people who they should and should not be interacting with is fucking weird.

    • 389aaa [it/its]
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      4 years ago

      Takes like this are the reason we need downvotes back.

      • BillyMays [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        No this is good. Now I know theres x amount of people who share the view and that should concern us as a community.

        • 389aaa [it/its]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah, but this has also been a really mainstream view on chapo until very recently. I'd argue there's much more use in bullying these people and downvoting them into the ground to make them look irrelevant and unwelcome.

          Edit: Besides, even with downvotes you can still see how many people upvoted it. You just gotta mouse over the bear next to the number.

          • Moosegender [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            So was shitting on tankies and dunking on Jimmy dore. Now china best ever and dore is good.

          • BillyMays [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Oh I’m usually on mobile never knew that. I’m in the get rid of numbers camp and just bully them. Which is what’s happening here anyway.

            • 389aaa [it/its]
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              4 years ago

              I tend to think that the negative numbers enhance the effect of the bullying. Plays on monkey brain psychology shit that this forum is never going to grow past imo unless it loses 95% of it's members. So, may as well utilize the power of that monkey brain psychology shit for good.

              • BillyMays [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                That’s fair. I do find less people interact when you can just downvoted instead.

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I don't think you can understand a chud if you don't actually fucking know any and what good are you in creating more leftists if you don't understand a big chunk of the population

        let me remind you a good number of us HERE were former chud

        • Nintendude31 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I don’t think the primary source for newly minted leftists is going to be proto fascists, sorry. Imo as long as you’re doing something other than posting and want to leave the world a better place than you came into it, you aren’t ‘useless’ for the left.

          I don’t understand why some people want to cater to chuds so badly

        • grilldaddy [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Agree and while yeah, many chuds are ski doo dealership owners or whatever, probably close to an equal number of them are people who differ on culture war grounds and actually share our class interests! it makes sense to find common ground with these people where possible.

            • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Why do you think they most of the people hold these opinions? Because they're evil? Because they're stupid? You're not better than anyone because you're a leftist.

              • BillyMays [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                They learned them and were made to believe they serve their material conditions. I don’t really give a shit. Don’t need to surround myself with people who would prefer me dead

                  • BillyMays [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    in America this is fax. If they had their way the nazis would’ve won. I guess Stalin should’ve just been friends with more nazis and tried to reason with them. Expand his friend group.

          • Nintendude31 [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I think writing off some very real concerns and worries Minority groups have about working with proto-fascists as ‘culture war stuff’ is a bad take and class reductionist as shit.