I'm down with the dictatorship of the proletariat, but fuck off if you're coming for my ketamine, 2CB, DMT, salvia, cannabis, etc. Everything I've read into and history's precedent tells me it's a pretty clear ban on everything.
And no lazy, bullshit responses like, "Well if we're in a communist utopia, I think you'll find there will be no need to take mind-altering substances, which clearly only exclusively exist as a response to captitalism."
Curiosity, spirituality, and exploring the unknown will exist in perpetuity. I just wonder what limitations will be impressed upon society.
The drug companies know a lot more about their drugs than they're willing to tell you, and most people don't even know what they're willing to tell you. People look at Vicodin and just hear "this makes your pain go away" but don't research the side effects.
My understanding is that communism is a political science. As with most sciences, it can adapt and change accordingly when new data arises.
We don't live in the Reefer Madness era where pot was thought to be dangerous. Capitalism adapted to the point of legalising it for wageslaves in progressive first world countries, as a minor respite from the dread of mindless labour. Heck, we have Silicon Valley chuds microdosing on LSD to be more productive.
Pot, blow, booze, whatever... if it makes for a happier prole, then why the hell not.
The problem arises when it becomes a form of escapism that has you chasing dragons instead of living a more meaningful life. Do I get to choose the meaning of your life? Fuck no.
I personally think drugs of all kind would be legalised in Fully Automated Gay Space Luxury Communism. There would also be rehabs for people who wish to rid themselves of the substance dependence.
But till we reach that point, look around you. At the hellworld surrounding you. Short circuiting your brain synapses for pleasure does not make for a revolutionary imho.
Leftists that unironically advocate for blanket bans on all substances rub me the wrong way.
This is a (very very very minor) one of reasons I'm an anarchist and not ML
cannabis use is not intensely criminalized in DPRK and a large portion of workers in North Korea choom tf up
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marijuana-in-north-korea_n_4067341
Yeah that's pretty nice, I like that policy imo it shouldn't be criminalized at all but that's a start
This is less about AES but more about people who talk about what communism should look like and say drugs are threat to the workers and the state or w/e
there should be massive cultural education around these things, the scare tactics center mostly around America's janus-faced influence in global policing & propping up certain right-wing narcostate regimes over others. Opium trade for instance was always something our Taiwanese warlord & Turkish friends helped us out with.
but I am more apt to look at real effects of drug policy of former & present ML states. Georgia's anti-drug crusade of today is insane. USSR also never really enforced its anti-"narcomania" policy before the US' global anti-communist& anti-worker drug war. For instance, "drug regulation remained largely untouched in the Soviet Union until 1974"
I don't think people should be nodding off everyday on Fent, but we know from "Rat Park" experiment that individuals are less likely to fall into this pit of despair & dependence if there are real world alternatives to get those "feel-good" chemicals going.
This is what I don’t like, I value personal freedom. I would say good education and support could deter addiction but I also don’t want it illegal to decide what to do with my own body.
This is a (very very very minor) one of reasons I’m an anarchist and not ML
Prohibition isn't mandated by ML ideology, but abstinence in the throes of revolution is obviously responsible so there's a reason why figures like Lenin and Mao advocated for it
Another one is: solidarity with our sex worker comrades!
However... under Communism, your sex work won't be tolerated.
sex work under capitalism & removed from socially necessary/productive & even reproductive intent very quickly becomes hyperexploitative, even if the individual sex worker claims to "enjoy" or find "fulfillment" from this work. self-exploitation is still exploitation
subjugation & exploitation often have little to do with workers' subjective "feeling" about their own line of work. and patting the upper middle class youth on the back who moonlight as dancers or sugar babies isn't even scratching the surface of prostitution's real connection to social dissolution & biting poverty in socioeconomically blighted areas.
sex work through state regulated channels or within larger intentional frameworks of social empowerment & shared destiny would be far more befitting of that idealized future. USSR approached this from many different angles, including "socializing" & regulating sex work for the poorest "victims". Additionally, explicit laws forbidding prostitution weren't added to Soviet legal codes until 1987, well into pro-capitalist Perestroika period
Fuuuuuuuck, you all turned me into an emoji here?
I agree with OP. Leave me, footjobs, and my rocks alone and I'll participate in the dickships of the proles or whatever you call it
Welcome and also congratulations, I look forward to seeing what you have to offer as First Large Adult Son over the next four years, I'm sure you won't disappoint
The reason you're not getting a straight answer is because you already answered yourself.
Everything I’ve read into and history’s precedent tells me it’s a pretty clear ban on everything.
This information, however, skews very unfavorably in trying to turn more young, impressionable Westerners into communists.
I think its also complicated by the fact that we understand addiction a lot better in the 21st century and have kinda realized flat-out criminalization and prohibition isn't the best way to go about treating epidemics of drug abuse.
It's also why most young westerners who skew left are, imo, such poor communists. Without a culture of communal organization or tradition of deferring to an actual democratic body of their peers, any individual pursuits are put above what the group consensus is and splits are inevitable.
Of course the problem with this is that much of the 'group consensus' of America trends towards pretty horrific policies, particularly concerning foriegn interests. Shit sucks....
This works well into anarchism, however, despite its own political flaccidity within the imperial core.
Well if we’re in a communist utopia, I think you’ll find there will be no need to take mind-altering substances, which clearly only exclusively exist as a response to captitalism.
I feel like drug addiction and drug use sometimes get conflated in this debate. Drug addiction would almost certainly go down as material conditions improved, but that doesn't really have any correlation with drug use in a recreational manner.
Even better we will eventually get biological glands placed inside our brains allowing us to produce any drug effect but in a way completely compatible with human biology (so no withdrawal, severe side effects, etc). People will explore interesting combinations of natural neurotransmitters and name these combos something interesting. It will be a whole new art form. Not everyone will be into it of course but the option will be there. Anyways check out Ian Banks Culture series for some FALGSC utopian biopunk drug use.
Puff puff pass will be made law in the Communist States of America
Political movements which rely on appeal to a mass of people tend to be conservative in these areas, unfortunately.
it sucks that unions and shit are reactionary and conservative -_-
like, all of us here are pretty progressive but most leftists (not the online kind) aren't.
Who knows, the reality of drug enforcement within any government system, communist or not, is a product of the historical materialism of the system and it's relationship to other systems and cultures, as are current socialist systems Any other answer is pure ideology.
That being said, if you are willing to forsake whatever the mass line or DoP decides on such matters simply for the sake of mind altering substances, you may wish to consider less potentially authoritarian (to your individualistic ideals) systems of production as your 'ideal'.
This isn't a moral judgement btw, it's just important to know what your actual principles are.
