It's hard to believe the Democrats aren't controlled opposition when they choose to play the game on a higher difficulty than Republicans have for the past 20+ years.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is exactly what Obama did, which pissed off the Krugmans who yelled that the stimulus would be inadequate and lead to a shitty recovery and eventually electoral reckonings, which was all pretty much spot on. I can see why republicans would want to do that again, but what democrats are thinking? "We need to lose more?"

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      but what democrats are thinking? “We need to lose more?”

      yes

    • _else [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      literally unironically unsarcastically yes. that's their whole thing. thats the point of them. they're not the opposition, they're the "good cop", and we all know ACAB.

  • vertexarray [any]
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    4 years ago

    Biden isn't even controlled oppo, he just naturally loves to suck off republicans

    • Zoift [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Is there a meaningful difference though?

      • vertexarray [any]
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        4 years ago

        From our perspective, no. For dem donors it means they don't even have to fuck with him because he just does it for the love of the game.

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's important for all of us to remember that the Democrats can pass any bill they want without any Republican support. Any bill they choose not to pass is an indictment of them and them alone.

    • Magjee [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yep

      They are know actively choosing to put it forward with a requirement of 60 votes, when they can get the same result immediately with 50 + VP

       

      Also they already swapped from a $2,000 payment to $1,400 + $600 you already got

      Fucking bullShit

  • PowerUser [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    They never did

    This happened in 2013, when Harry Reid of the Democratic Party raised a point of order that "the vote on cloture under rule XXII for all nominations other than for the Supreme Court of the United States is by majority vote". The presiding officer overruled the point of order, and Reid appealed the ruling. Mitch McConnell of the Republican Party raised a parliamentary inquiry on how many votes were required to appeal the chair's ruling in that instance. The presiding officer replied, "A majority of those Senators voting, a quorum being present, is required." Reid's appeal was sustained by a 52–48 vote, and the presiding officer then ruled that the Senate had established a precedent that cloture on nominations other than those for the Supreme Court requires only a simple majority. On April 6, 2017, that precedent was further changed by McConnell and the Republican majority, in a 52–48 vote, to include Supreme Court nominations.

    Just need 51 votes to remove the filibuster

  • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    So the democrats who have a simple majority will need 10 republicans to pass things that need a simple majority? :xi-plz:

      • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Having Sanders as the budget chairman means he has to approve the bill that goes to the floor. He sounds like he wants the biggest possible budget reconciliation bill, should be easy to vote no on a watered down bill

          • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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            4 years ago

            For sure they would paint him that way. But if Bernie was ready to vote against military funding for $2k checks I don't see why he would be against doing something with much less risk. Budget reconciliations bills aren't the yearly budget, they won't cause a govt shutdown if they fail