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The West can't stop the virus because it has sooo much freedom!
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OoOoOOoOoh what if the virus came from an spooky chinese lab
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The chinese support their government (y'know the one that saved them from the virus while the west is still letting millions die a year later) therefore they are brainwashed
"Could a spiralling outbreak of infection that almost destroyed Wuhan's health system, sparked the world's first Covid lockdown and spawned a global catastrophe really have arrived on imported food without any signs of similarly devastating outbreaks elsewhere?"
FFS. There were signs of outbreaks elsewhere, they were just chalked up to a nasty cold and flu year. No one was looking for a SARS outbreak outside of Asia. We only started looking for it in the US a month after China found it, and it was already here in people who didn't travel to China.
The last season of Rake actually predicted this. An Australian ice cream company was selling out to a Chinese manufacturer and the new owners were discontinuing the most popular product (AusRipple).
Everyone was losing their minds and it almost started an international incident until someone sat down with the PM and told him that the colorings in the ice cream were actually from pesticides and trace amounts of uranium. They had to discontinue it because China's Health Ministry actually checks for that stuff lol.
The BBC really is just raw propaganda and racism isnt it.
EDIT: I love the bit about the Chinese woman saying it 'came from America.' The piece is written in a way to frame this as nuts or brainwashing, but literally they dont know! They THINK it came from wuhan so the author treats it as if their supposition, with some evidence, is ironclad fact. LITERALLY YOU DONT KNOW MOTHERFUCKER!!! It COULD have originated in America! Is it probable that it originated in Wuhan? Sure. But no one fucking knows and to present it otherwise is racist yellow journalism.
Edit2: In The Peoples Republic of CrimsonSage all western journalists will be forced to pick vegetables by hand for 12 hours a day until they repent their ways.
In The Peoples Republic of CrimsonSage all western journalists will be forced to pick vegetables by hand for 12 hours a day until they repent their ways.
I judge this :halal:
Very Juche
Does anyone know the details about the evidence of the virus in Italy and Australia in autumn 2019? I'd like to know what justification they have for saying that
such studies "lack validation" and some have been conducted without "the most basic controls"
and then treating it as unworthy of further investigation
Researchers find coronavirus was circulating in Italy earlier than thought
The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.
A further SARS-CoV-2 antibodies test was carried out by the University of Siena for the same research titled “Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the pre-pandemic period in Italy”.
It showed that four cases dating back to the first week of October were positive for antibodies, meaning they had got infected in September, Giovanni Apolone, a co-author of the study, told Reuters.
and also:
Italian researchers told Reuters in March that they reported a higher than usual number of cases of severe pneumonia and flu in Lombardy in the last quarter of 2019 in a sign that the new coronavirus might have circulated earlier than thought.
Just read the other article you posted here, and it gives a good answer:
it is possible, as the authors themselves acknowledge, that the tests are picking up another kind of antibody that, while similar, is distinct; coronaviruses are a large and relatively common family of virus, including some that can cause the common cold, leaving open the possibility that infection by a non-Covid-19 virus induced the positive test results
So it's not irrefutably proven that it's covid-19. "Weird" though, how western media treats "proof isn't conclusive" as "there is no proof".
Exactly. Could have been something else causing these detections, but we can't rule it out.
It's also pretty baffling to me (well not really, it's just western propaganda at work) that being able to detect a new virus in the middle of a flu season, that in most cases is indistinguishable from the flu, is presented as a sign of incompetence on China's part.
Yeah media bias is a fuck. It is highly likely it was a different antibody though tbh, but it still may have been in Italy a few weeks earlier than reported. Covid causes death spikes so quickly. There will probably be this year some study out on unaccounted pneumonia spikes in various places that will give more info on early outbreaks. The only for sure info I'm aware of we have from genetic sequencing on covid shows the two closest known viruses are a bat Coronavirus found in Yunnan, and a Coronavirus found in dead pangolins also in Yunnan. Getting more specific than that will require huge amounts of sampling various animals in the region.
Friendly reminder that a virus that mutates is entirely unique to viruses that are created in nature, mutations are still not entirely understood by biologists today. This whole Wuhan lab tangent shit makes zero sense whatsoever.
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"Friendly reminder that a virus that mutates is entirely unique to viruses that are created in nature"
What? All viruses come from nature, even engineered ones come from natural source material. Building organisms from scratch is still outside our ability, and even if we could they would still mutate.
