Denying a racist Western conspiracy about China is not only good, its morally right.
There is not a SINGLE Muslim nation that will condemn this situation at the UN. All of them have denied it without fail.
If that alone is not proof that this is another Iraqi WMD situation what more do you need?
Again, only the nations who have been murdering Muslims for the last two decades say this exists. Only them. This is another insane lie concocted by western powers.
legit had someone tell me that every muslim nation was corrupt and that china was holding stuff over their head while calling me racist for thinking uighurs arent being genocided lmao
There is not a SINGLE Muslim nation that will condemn this situation at the UN
I’m sorry, but like why are we, as socialists, trading in the fiction that capitalist states/governments with majority Muslim populations are advancing the collective will and interests of those Muslim populations?
You have to sever anything approaching class analysis or Marxist analysis to talk about “Muslim nations” as if the religion is the guiding force behind the actions and positions of those states.
The government of Pakistan isn’t like an avatar for the moral or political preferences of working class Muslim people in Pakistan, it literally exists to keep those workers subjugated.
But it doesnt matter what those poor uneducated browns think, eh?
Yea, but in the case of both NGOs and literal governments, that’s not what we’re talking about, and you’re making the same theoretical error as the person above.
Also a big fuck you for implying I’m a racist, and I’d be surprised if I’m not the only “brown” involved in this discussion.
It may not be the guiding force behind those countries but it is a shared value. It's ridiculous to assume that they all are corrupt and bend to China's will for whatever reason
Come back to me when the mosques are being deconstructed. Only thing being deconstructed is fundamentalist extremism leading to terrorism and Uyghur women being nothing but babymaking factories.
Is using a low platform and cloth instead of a low table a dangerous element protecting national security? Because the former is called uncivilized by Chinese “relatives”, the spies that huge amounts of Uyghurs are required to have visit their homes and provide information to, with tables given as gifts. It is that petty, but the pettiness belies a depth of monitoring and oppression.
idk maybe I'm just biased and maybe because a lot of the sources are from things like human rights watch or the sources main sources are radio free asia and maybe it's because the author of this, Darren Byler is buddies with Zenz and the two cite each other constantly, and that they're both head members of a group called the Uighur Scholar Working Group under the Center for Global Policy, an American foreign policy think tank in Washington, but I'm a bit skeptical
Denying a racist Western conspiracy about China is not only good, its morally right.
There is not a SINGLE Muslim nation that will condemn this situation at the UN. All of them have denied it without fail.
If that alone is not proof that this is another Iraqi WMD situation what more do you need?
Again, only the nations who have been murdering Muslims for the last two decades say this exists. Only them. This is another insane lie concocted by western powers.
legit had someone tell me that every muslim nation was corrupt and that china was holding stuff over their head while calling me racist for thinking uighurs arent being genocided lmao
I've heard the same. :agony:
It's the only rational argument you can make against that state of affairs, as insane as it is.
Nevermind the OIC praises China's Xinjiang program as 'providing effective care for it's citizens'.
I’m sorry, but like why are we, as socialists, trading in the fiction that capitalist states/governments with majority Muslim populations are advancing the collective will and interests of those Muslim populations? You have to sever anything approaching class analysis or Marxist analysis to talk about “Muslim nations” as if the religion is the guiding force behind the actions and positions of those states.
The government of Pakistan isn’t like an avatar for the moral or political preferences of working class Muslim people in Pakistan, it literally exists to keep those workers subjugated.
Plenty of non-governmental Muslim orgs say the same thing.
But it doesnt matter what those poor uneducated browns think, eh? They're not qualified to recognize oppression like the West is.
Yea, but in the case of both NGOs and literal governments, that’s not what we’re talking about, and you’re making the same theoretical error as the person above.
Also a big fuck you for implying I’m a racist, and I’d be surprised if I’m not the only “brown” involved in this discussion.
It may not be the guiding force behind those countries but it is a shared value. It's ridiculous to assume that they all are corrupt and bend to China's will for whatever reason
Bending to the will of the nation that wont bomb you, rather than the ones that will.
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The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (the Muslim equivalent of an International rights group) literally says that it's NOT questionable.
And they came to that decision after visiting Xinjiang, reversing their earlier position that it WAS questionable.
So no, I am not about to 'both sides' Western lies.
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Come back to me when the mosques are being deconstructed. Only thing being deconstructed is fundamentalist extremism leading to terrorism and Uyghur women being nothing but babymaking factories.
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Then what exactly are you saying? What parts of "Uyghur culture and life" were "being systematically deconstructed"?
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There are videos from Xinjiang, albeit somewhat suppressed, like this youtuber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKvulTU8oU
That's like saying ESL classes are immoral in America. Should people not learn a second language that gives broader work opportunities?
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they legit have super mosques that are tourist attractions. google maps shows it recently too
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Not allowing fundamentalists to enslave women is bad now. Critical support for Chinese ISIS in their struggle for religious freedom.
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I'm not intersted in engaging with insane Western lies.
I hate to tell you this, but bad people can lie to achieve their goals. The West has been doing this for centuries.
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Yours. Fuck off with the CIA shit.
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Do you have a source for that
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idk maybe I'm just biased and maybe because a lot of the sources are from things like human rights watch or the sources main sources are radio free asia and maybe it's because the author of this, Darren Byler is buddies with Zenz and the two cite each other constantly, and that they're both head members of a group called the Uighur Scholar Working Group under the Center for Global Policy, an American foreign policy think tank in Washington, but I'm a bit skeptical
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