https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1358362146376138754?s=19

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Brits got presented with the nicest man in the british isles and said no to him, in favour of this hamhock looking motherfucker

  • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Oh god the comments...

    “Of course he’s pro business, the business interests are the biggest proponents of immigration”

    :agony-turbo:

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They're chasing public opinion instead of changing it. The right is smarter, they don't waste their time worrying about what common people want, they spend their time making common people want the things that benefit themselves.

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The 2nd part of that sentence would actually theoretically be true, of course not for the reasons this person was thinking of.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The coup worked very well for them. They got rid of the risk of working class politics and locked the Tory policies that benefits them in place. Winning elections would be nice but policy is more important to them than that.

  • MorallyPanicked [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Keir Starmer. Because of course when the country most needed a strong socialist opposition, the Labour Party is lead by this absolute wetwipe, a flag shagging automaton. He's already blindly supported the Tories' failed covid policy, abstained on torture, voted for the Brexit he spent years saying was bad for the country and replaced any real helpful policies with vague nationalist rhetoric. So of course he's trying to brown nose big business too.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They could also change the name to the "Tony Blair party" or the "Democratic party"

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    TERF Island is actually having it though. Like, polls showed a big swing towards labour when he was elected and now they're very close to the Tories in polls. It's very hellish to see. Just sink the entire thing.

    • Saint [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The optimist in me hopes that's at least partially because of 100k needlessly dead of COVID. Not that Starmer's Labour would have done any better.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Why would you like it? I can only imagine solemn acceptance of nobody being on your side or righteous anger at something like this. How can you prefer this?

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          The general you, I mean 😂 like why would a potential voter look at the labor party, see that Corbyn was ousted, see that they're more "pro-business" and think, "oh thank God 🙏🙏🙏"? I cannot imagine it without already being rich

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Like I blame it mostly on the media, British media is just the worst, outside of like BBC and The Guardian which are also bad but, like, they're "serious" when you compare it to the rest which is just the worst media imaginable, even US media are better.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Oh thank god I'm not British, I don't know why they like this, but I'm guessing it's just because most Brits are generally conservative and very pro-business, Labor too especially after the Blair era. So a bunch of people got pissed off at Corbyn not being a capitalist shill. It's just a very dumb place with horrible propaganda rags.

  • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Quite impressive that Starmer has managed to fuck up quite so badly. The flag fucking stuff from last week was a disaster and this is incredibly tone deaf. It's not 1997 anymore. Even the Democrats realise that. Even if they have no real intention of bring about genuine change.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        4 years ago

        leftists got further in the UK so they had to be punished. Corbyn wasn't supposed to get elected as leader in the first place, his victory was a surprise.

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The Labour party was getting a lot of new members under Corbyn, but the problem is that the members were the wrong kind of members. Corbyn was re-elected as Labour leader despite the very obvious wishes of many high ranking members to get rid of him in 2016. Now that they have control back they'll purge the membership so that the wrong kind of members won't get leadership positions again.

  • GrandAyatollaLenin [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Akshually, owning a business is a lot of work. You have to yell at workers, find ways to steal money from their paychecks, and do paperwork occasionally.

  • Punk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    UK comrades bun the labour party and come join Red Fightback

    • dlefnemulb_rima [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Why this group in particular? Website looks good but I know the RCG have some active members in our area and met a few once or twice before.

      • Punk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think the main things that set Red Fightback apart is the entry educational programme that you have to pass before you join and also the explicit support for trans rights.

        I can't speak for RCG as I don't know much about it but so much of the old school hard left in the UK are terfy cranks and are also completely out of touch with young people.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Every other communist org in the UK is out of touch and completely riddled with terfs.

      • Punk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Now's the best time to join. The entry educational programme is in depth, I think it takes about ten weeks, so by the time you become a full member COVID should be on the way out (touch wood)

        You can shitpost in comms with everyone while you're still a prospective member as well which might be the best part because there's nowhere decent to talk about leftism online in the UK.