The first was from a local stand up comedian (?) / activist who accused him of sexual harassment. They weren't in any kind of professional relationship whatsoever except for possibly (?) both appearing at an open mic on the same night one time (Buttar apparently did really terrible spoken word). She came to pamphlet his share house, and he apparently hit on her (I don't remember there being many details here). It "became a pattern" when he also hit on her when they met at parties over the years. In one example, they were chatting with a group of friends and the topic was "when did you last have sex." When the conversation turned to her she said something like "[decent number of] years ago, I was assaulted, I haven't had sex since." Buttar said something insensitive, I forgot what. Later he allegedly brushed up against her as they were getting drink refills in the kitchen, and she quoted him as saying "I'm sure we can find someone to fuck you."
The second allegation was from a campaign staffer or staffers (or volunteers?) who had been fired en masse from his campaign (there was some personnel shakeup a couple months in or something? I forgot), who accused him of berating them and "seeming to be less accepting of ideas in meetings if they came from a woman," with no examples. I don't remember the specifics, or if there really were specifics. In this case Buttar said in response that he "can be a difficult boss," which is pretty fucking cringe for a socialist.
Looks like it, but they still all left at once due to something that at least included strategy disagreements (from here):
In an interview, Wilde told Salon that her "final straw" came back in the spring after the primary, when, she said, she and other staffers grew tired of Buttar "challenging every decision" in "demeaning" ways that she alleged were sexist and misogynistic. Specifically, Wilde said she and her colleagues were, during the primary, focused on placing second. Then, there was concern that John Dennis, the Republican Party's candidate who faced off against Pelosi in the 2020 primary, was going to win. Wilde said she focused on traditional tactics like knocking on doors — the "basics of campaigning," she said — and that Buttar was often resistant to them. Wilde said it was "incredibly demoralizing" to hear him say that what she and other staffers continued to suggest had no impact on the election.
"He was incredibly disrespectful and hurtful, he lashed out quite a bit at everyone on the team," Wilde told Salon. Wilde said that she and other staffers outlined a list of stipulations, threatening to quit if they weren't met. Wilde says Buttar verbally agreed, but says they didn't stick. "We didn't feel it was ethical to continue taking money from donors to run a campaign that was essentially his vanity project," she added.
Wilde left, which then caused a "ripple effect." Nearly a dozen more staffers left.
Still nobody says what those disagreements were except Buttar, obliquely:
"One point of tension," Buttar said, was attending in-person events. "I built the campaign by being a very frequent face at events, any march, rally, protest, discussion, community meeting about climate change, wars, universal health care over the last three years I've been at, and I go there with people and I recruit them — that was another strategy that my staff didn't understand," he said.
getting 7 or 8 people who worked directly under him to corroborate the same thing? Sorry no one has that kind of Machiavellian control.
You just dangle offers of money and future jobs. Assuming that these people weren't plants from the start, which is also not out of the question. Again, this is the Pelosi machine we're talking about.
There's no easy solution here. We have a large problem of sexual assault and rape victims coming forward and being ignored, but (especially in a political context) you also have whisper campaigns (see Alex Morse) and obvious fabrications (remember when Jacob Wohl got some ex-Marine to accuse Elizabeth Warren of some BDSM-related sex crime, and the guy couldn't read his statement without laughing?).
Howie Hawkins had probably the best statement on the matter when the Tara Reade story broke: you take the accusation as credible, investigate, and give due process to the accused. This isn't perfect (because you have bad-faith smears like the ones directed at Morse and Warren, and they shouldn't even be taken as credible; and you also have situations where the victim stands by their story in good faith, but there's not enough evidence for a third party to draw any conclusions), but it's a decent start.
Yes, it's such an important issue for the left that it's extremely easy for an opponent of the left to have someone say something vague about some prominent progressive figure and instantly discredit them forever, because people will usually just go with it, and there may well be residue suspicion even if they are at least partially vindicated. I think here it is different because there were multiple reports of people quitting his campaign, although it didn't seem to be about sexual assault or anything like that, just "usual" mistreatment of staff.
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There was some comments about him groping some women or something like that. Wasn't rape-rape I think
There were two accusations, from memory:
The first was from a local stand up comedian (?) / activist who accused him of sexual harassment. They weren't in any kind of professional relationship whatsoever except for possibly (?) both appearing at an open mic on the same night one time (Buttar apparently did really terrible spoken word). She came to pamphlet his share house, and he apparently hit on her (I don't remember there being many details here). It "became a pattern" when he also hit on her when they met at parties over the years. In one example, they were chatting with a group of friends and the topic was "when did you last have sex." When the conversation turned to her she said something like "[decent number of] years ago, I was assaulted, I haven't had sex since." Buttar said something insensitive, I forgot what. Later he allegedly brushed up against her as they were getting drink refills in the kitchen, and she quoted him as saying "I'm sure we can find someone to fuck you."
The second allegation was from a campaign staffer or staffers (or volunteers?) who had been fired en masse from his campaign (there was some personnel shakeup a couple months in or something? I forgot), who accused him of berating them and "seeming to be less accepting of ideas in meetings if they came from a woman," with no examples. I don't remember the specifics, or if there really were specifics. In this case Buttar said in response that he "can be a difficult boss," which is pretty fucking cringe for a socialist.
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Looks like it, but they still all left at once due to something that at least included strategy disagreements (from here):
Still nobody says what those disagreements were except Buttar, obliquely:
Fuck that's worse than I thought
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You just dangle offers of money and future jobs. Assuming that these people weren't plants from the start, which is also not out of the question. Again, this is the Pelosi machine we're talking about.
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I don't see how it's any of that just to say "maybe this isn't as it seems?"
Eeh some shitstain could say the same but in reverse abput Biden - Reade
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Believe Women means take it seriously and investigate?
I thought we could just believe in woman and call it a day
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There's no easy solution here. We have a large problem of sexual assault and rape victims coming forward and being ignored, but (especially in a political context) you also have whisper campaigns (see Alex Morse) and obvious fabrications (remember when Jacob Wohl got some ex-Marine to accuse Elizabeth Warren of some BDSM-related sex crime, and the guy couldn't read his statement without laughing?).
Howie Hawkins had probably the best statement on the matter when the Tara Reade story broke: you take the accusation as credible, investigate, and give due process to the accused. This isn't perfect (because you have bad-faith smears like the ones directed at Morse and Warren, and they shouldn't even be taken as credible; and you also have situations where the victim stands by their story in good faith, but there's not enough evidence for a third party to draw any conclusions), but it's a decent start.
Dude what happened to Jacob Wohl? I miss that guy and his big meaty head, did he do too many crimes and go to jail or something?
Yes, it's such an important issue for the left that it's extremely easy for an opponent of the left to have someone say something vague about some prominent progressive figure and instantly discredit them forever, because people will usually just go with it, and there may well be residue suspicion even if they are at least partially vindicated. I think here it is different because there were multiple reports of people quitting his campaign, although it didn't seem to be about sexual assault or anything like that, just "usual" mistreatment of staff.
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I meant the DNC excused Biden saying, among piles and piles of shit, that Reade was a Russia asset
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