the one with will smith i think. CMON I NEED TO RADICALIZE SOME KIDS OVER HERE!!!!

    • Woly [any]
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      4 years ago

      This is the biggest takeaway from that movie. It makes for a compelling drama, but even the most cursory understand of statistics will tell you that cases like his are actually one in a million - that is to say, they're so uncommon that they're essentially a fantasy.

      The world we live in is far, far less rewarding of hard work and perseverance than movies like these make it out to be.

    • purr [undecided]
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      4 years ago

      it also doesnt mean you're automatically smart, even if it is the 80s

      • TransComrade69 [she/her,ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        I used to speed cube and can confirm it's 90% ability to recognize patterns and perform certain algorithms and 10% ability to memorize those algorithms, lmfao.

    • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I... could have guessed, but i need more firepower to own the fucking LIBS in that classroom!!!!

      • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        The only person I am consistently capable of owning is myself. Owning libs?Unfortunately I am of no use to you in this regard, have a nice day

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    what if he made his kid sleep in a train station mens room and he didnt get the finance bro job?

    what if there were two guys making their kids sleep in a train station mens room so they could compete for the same finance bro job and only one of them could get it?

    forging a brighter tomorrow through kids sleeping in train station mens rooms

    thats the only thing i remember about that movie except that i hated it

    • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Your second point hits it on the head: chance plays a far greater roll in our lives under Capitalism than we like to admit, and the consequences of flunking are devastating.

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        that was just the point where i expected the movie to go hold up this shit has gone too far maybe theres a problem with this system if you need to make your kid sleep in a fucking train station mens room for a dice roll at getting ahead but nope just stirring strings at the fresh princes brave sacrifice for a finance bro job

        fucking r/upliftingnews the movie

        • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I mean shit yeah, it literally is that isn't it. A milllion dollar remake of all the horseshit "feel good" stories you see on local news.

    • Woly [any]
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      4 years ago

      In the hope Gardner’s story would inspire the down-trodden citizens of Chattanooga, Tennessee to achieve financial independence and to take greater responsibility for the welfare of their families, the mayor of Chattanooga organized a viewing of the film for the city’s homeless.

      Patrick Bateman standing over a homeless person telling them to get a job.

  • gofer300 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I hate this fucking movie, not only because of the whole "you just need to pull yourself by your bootstraps, everything is possible if you believe and try" take .But the whole premise being pursuing the happiness and implying happiness == money The movie ends after he gets this stupid job it implies that now that he is rich they are happy, completely moving past the fact that the kid suffered a lot of trauma and his parents are divorced but I guess he is happy because he has a rich father now

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Lots of good answers, maybe this angle is useful: what economic purpose did his job serve? And does that job deserve to be so richly compensated? Was his job more socially necessary than say, cleaning a hotel room?

    He was selling stocks to people, that's it. But what actual value is being created here? Sure he's helping his company make more profit, but where is that profit coming from? Yep, right from the customers. The movie never shows you the sweet old lady who put everything into the stocks he sold her and then lost it all.

    I've known a lot of stock brokers. Every single one was absolute scum. Every single one didn't give a shit about what they were selling, it was literally just get someone to buy their shit. Sure, you can make a lot of money as a broker, it's certainly "meritocracy". Working in sales in any industry under capitalism is usually fairly meritocratic, that's something that's kind of unique to sales. But that wealth comes directly out of the pockets of other people.

    Under socialism we don't need stockbrokers.

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also, stock brokers are bad at their job. Every study shows that stock brokers can only beat the odds by cheating. Just buying some index fund and not touching it has far better returns.

      He doesn't even do what he is paid to do. Hsi job is to make rich pwople feel special.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The gimmick isn't how heart-warming it is to see a guy make it.

    It is tonsee how hard he worked to make it, in a world where everyone else went to a party school and got that job through a parent's friend.

    How nothing about him changed. He can do the math to solve a rubix cube in his head. He didn't learn anything or become better to get the job.

    It is just through luck. Luck he was in the right place at tbe right time. Luck the guy wass off qualudes and liked the colors. And luck that he is at the point in thr busienss cycle where the stock market is makibg money. If this movie was set in 08 say, he would have eneed up back in the train station after defrauding some little old ladies of their holmes.

        • TransComrade69 [she/her,ze/hir]
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          4 years ago

          You have to sleep in a public restroom and cry as someone shakes the door if you want even close to the grit necessary to succeed in life.

          • SonKyousanJoui [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            There are several stories of people getting charged with child abuse for leaving their kids in the car during job interviews.

            • crime [she/her, any]
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              4 years ago

              Also for leaving their kids at mall food courts while they interviewed at stores right across the way, also leaving their kids in the stores they're interviewing at

  • superdoctorman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It is possible some people in the internship program as him were in a similar position. They did not get the job. Anybody has the chance to succeed, but at least some people won't. Under this system, there will always be some people who have to raise their kids while sleeping in a subway bathroom.