This was fun last time, leggo again

I'll start with: libertarians have solid takes ~40-50% of the time and many of them just need to be pushed a step further in their thinking to turn against capitalist oppression along with state oppression. The libright-to-leftist pipeline is stronger than most seem to think it is.

  • T_Doug [he/him]
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    A communist revolution is near impossible without significant sympathy and support among rank and file soldiers, in fact having that support is the difference between forming a Red Army that can resoundingly defeat reactionary forces, and getting murdered by Freikorps.

    If you're an ML who flatly rejects the idea that all efforts should be extended to bring troops into any communist movement, while also believing that communism is solely achievable through revolution, you're not pragmatic at all, but rather more Utopian then even the most extreme "DemSocs" or "Anarkiddie" caricature.

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      Why do people who always assume the soldiers are necessary compare them to the Red Army, as if the US military and the Imperial Russian Army are remotely comparable? The Kerensky government literally could not ship soldiers to the front faster than they were deserting and the Petrograd garrisons rebelled specifically because they did not want to be sent out. Almost the entire Imperial military were conscripts who were in some of the worst conditions soldiers have ever seen. If we ever get to a situation where the average US soldier is an unwilling conscript looking at something akin to slowly dying of gangrene in a freezing cold trench to carry out an imperialist war on behalf of a self appointed government that doesn't even offer them anything for their service then yeah, reach out to the soldiers, engage in Trench Bolshevism. However, as long as the troops have air conditioning and 3 meals a day they will serve the bourgeoisie.

      Everyone wants to pretend that revolution in the imperial core will be bloodless, or that we'll just be getting rid of the fascists, and it will be as quick as October. This is utopian. It's going to look a lot more like China after the fall of the Qing except probably even worse. Once the US military ceases to be the 'US' military because the US ceases to be 'United' then maybe the soldiers can be radicalized.

      • btr2mrw [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Warlord Era US with giant mad max-style truck convoys and youtuber milita leaders would truly be a worthy sequel to the psychotic freakshow generals and armored train warfare of the Chinese Warlord Era

    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      No, bro, my meme plan to withdraw to the Everglades with the rest of my Maoist cell to launch a protracted people's war will totally end up in capitalism being destroyed, not in us eating raw snakes for dinner and then calling mom to come pick us up!