"Communism is when no democracy"

    • margaretsnatcher2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I was told a story that "in the soviet union the government would buy whatever factories would make so one day the government places an order for 10,000 (screws? or tires? or boots? or bullets? I forget) with a 4 different sizes. But 3 of those size types take longer to produce so instead the factory produces 10,000 all in 1 size and the soviet union was forced to buy it and got left with junk/waste and still didn't have 3 of the sizes it required. and that's why capitalism is better because if the factory makes waste it has to bear the loss of that waste and factories have to produce what the market demands".

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Boomers really do think literally everyone in the USSR was receiving the same salary. I've heard it. "Why would anyone do the more interesting job when you could get paid the same to do the job that you don't like?"

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          It's fucking wild. Like wage flattening was something that was talked about by Soviet academics and the Communist Party, but it wasn't until Gorbachev that it was actually attempted in earnest as one of his bloc's various hairbrained policy ideas, and was walked back as fast as his anti-alcohol campaign because of how horribly unpopular it was. IIRC Khrushchev may have also started the process, but stopped with only minor reforms after it yielded poor results (compared to Gorbachev, at least Khrushchev tended to back off - or was reined in by other officials - after his liberalization policies yielded poor results instead of doubling down and setting everything on fire like Gorbachev and his bloc were able to do).

          • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Are you telling me Soviet history is well documented and if you want to make it really easy there's probably over 100 million former Soviet citizens you can talk to?

            • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Can't be. I was assured that the Soviet Union made reading maps illegal* so no one could figure out how to leave, and that after the government was gone no one knew how to find their way home and just got lost in the woods, presumably with all their books and records which they probably thought were maps, the poor bastards.

              * They definitely, 100% didn't consider Orienteering a major sport with competitions, and people definitely weren't taught navigation and survival skills as part of mandatory civic defense education aimed at preparing the population to better survive another invasion or, even worse, a possible nuclear attack by the US!

                • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  I saw that when it was posted lol. I was referencing a post from the old sub where someone found some weirdo chud claiming that his Soviet grandfather told him the USSR forbid people from learning how to read maps so they couldn't leave, when in actuality reading maps and navigating terrain was literally a big competitive sport in the Soviet Union and literally everyone was required to learn navigation among other survival skills as part of their civic defense preparedness education.