Elder Scrolls is literally the least "fash" fantasy out there. Yes, I am a huge fucking nerd, no I am not white, I'll see you in the comments mother fucker, I KNOW THE LORE! FIGHT ME!
Elder Scrolls is literally the least "fash" fantasy out there. Yes, I am a huge fucking nerd, no I am not white, I'll see you in the comments mother fucker, I KNOW THE LORE! FIGHT ME!
Out of all the main characters in the series, which one is the strongest and which one would come out on top in a round robin 1v1 tournament? Give reasoning and proper argumentation.
For the sake of keeping this reasonably sized, I will assume you mean protagonists of the main games, if you mean the strongest non-god entity, then the Talos oversoul (pre apotheosis) is the strongest (Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus and Hjalti-Early Beard) due to acces to the numidium and the resources of an entire empire, as well as being the most powerful warrior, mage, and politician on Tamriel. So, as far as protagonists go, its The Hero of Kavatch, and its not even close, the HoK has mantled Sheogorath and is a literal Deadric lord. You could make the argument that as long as The Last Dragonborn doesn't enter oblivion, they could beat the HoK (temporarily) and the argument could be made that the LDB could mantle a Deadric prince if they wanted to seeing as how the HoK did it, but then again, the HoK only did it with the cooperation of the previous Sheogorath. Also the LDB's connection to Herma-mora is irrelevant, as they are subservient to Herma, and even if the LBD had Herma working for them, we run into the same problem of needed to beat Sheogorath (HoK) in their own realm of oblivion, which is basically impossible. If you don't count post apotheosis HoK then the LBD is the most powerful mortal.
These were the conditions. Whether or not anyone has the resources of an empire or the numidium doesn't apply. Yes, I am talking about the protagonists of the main game. Comparing their power sets, who would come out on top? I want specifics of feats. E.g. LDB can shout fire, become ethereal etc. How do they compare in a fight?
This doesn't really work, because you can't just get these characters in a round robin 1v1 tournament without breaking the lore (timelines, getting HoK out of oblivion) so doing a lore analysis is kinda moot. but I guess if we are talking pre-apotheosis HoK, and we just time travel everyone into a pocket realm of oblivion, The Eternal Champion, the Hero of Kavatch and The Agent just get wiped instantly by the LBD's thuum and the Neravarine's artifacts (keening, sunder, and wraithguard), as they are just mortals who did a thing. Between the LBD and Neravarine, I would say the LBD comes out on top, simply due to the fact that the LBD has bend will wich can mind control even Dragons, which are some of the most powerfull non-deity status beings in the universe.
Unless HoK gets off a lucky wabbajack right out the gate while LDB is preparing the shout. Now I need to know which attack takes longer.
Wabbajack is probably faster than 3 word shout. 1 word shout is probably faster than wabbajack.
IMO I think wabbajack wins then. Is there a single word shout that could instantly render the HoK out of the fight? Cause if not then it's over for LDB. Even if they single shouts anything to interrupt the HoK he now has a cool down for the next shout. HoK just need to be able to smack them with one good wabbajack and it's over.
Perhaps not render HoK out of the fight, but can protect LDB from wabbajack itself. Slow time and Become Ethereal can at least negate the initial wabbajack.
True I guess but those are just temporary and the cool down would take long enough that as soon as the effects wear off it's wabba time. Sure LDB might get off one or two free hits but if we are talking about a fully geared and leveled HoK, it would take more than a couple of hits to take them out. In the meantime the second those effects wear off it's game over.
So let's say that someone used an elder scroll in each timeline and every hero were transported to Sovngarde, you would give the win to HoK because the lore describes his feats as greater than every other hero?
Neravarine has the most feats (killed multiple god-level entities) but feats don't equal power, the ) LBD would win through bend will alone.
What is the power set of Neravarine?
The protagonists don't have a set playstyle, for obvious reasons, all we do know is the the Neravarine has the Tools of Kagranak, wich makes them super power full in many ways, and that they killed living gods with them.
I mean we know that absent anything else, the LDB at least has the Thu'um. Do any of the others have a default power set?
What about the Agent from Daggerfall? If we're assuming endgame of all heroes, he technically has Numidium with him (can't control it though) due to posessing the Mantella.
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Am I a bad geek if I don't really get "who would win" debates? Like I don't see the appeal at all.
Wolverine vs. Mr. Clean go!
No. Some people like it, some people don't. It's interesting to me because I'm curious about power mechanics of a given universe.
I'm assuming by "main character" you mean player character. If not that complicates it a hundredfold.
Probably the Oblivion main character, but only post-Shivering Isles once they mantle Sheogorath. Mantling is the process by which one may become another by performing certain acts and/or feats and essentially gaining that person's powers, visage and personality.
Base-game it's probably the Dragonborn due to their access to the Voice and their connection to Akatosh, Dragon-God of Time. During the main story, they're even able to go back in time via the use of an Elder Scroll which they're able to read without training or going blind (permanently anyway). They're probably the most Divine Driven of the heroes.
1-3 are just kinda Imperial agents and such, sent on a mission to complete. Though TES III is kind of complicated where your mission is to attempt to fulfill a prophecy, so you're kind of an agent but also kind of the reborn soul of a long-lost hero destined to save Morrowind, whether you're actually the hero or just someone who managed to fulfill the criteria is left up to the player to decide. Though the Nerevarine did also kill a god but her powers were waning anyway, as were their other potential godly victim. Dagoth Ur is also another self-proclaimed god so I guess you kill three throughout the course of the whole game and expansions.
Is Alduin>Sheogorath? If so couldn't you make the claim that since LDB>Alduin, then LDB>Sheogorath?
Alduin was prophecised to be destroyed by the Last Dragonborn and sent by Akatosh for this purpose. Alduin failed in his duty of ending the world and bringing in the new one and so this is his punishment. He doesn't even technically die in Skyrim, merely defeated, as he is the only Dragon you kill whose soul you do not absorb.
The LDB is kind of tailor-made to destroy Alduin, the same can't be said for Daedric Princes. Even in ESO when you "kill" Molag Bal with the power of both Meridia and Akatosh he is still alive but merely diminished in power for a time. Even the lesser Daedra don't seem to truly die but instead return to the Chaotic Creatia where they are reshaped or reformed.
In Bloodmoon, Hircine doesn't even let you fight his true form in the name of fairness. You only fight an aspect of your choosing and even then they're one of the strongest entities in the game.
Here's an example of the Oblivion MC attacking Sheogorath in their own realm as well.
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