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  • it_that_follows [none/use name]
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    Downvotes to the left, folks, but holy shit.

    We are fighting a fucking war on the internet and you will just as easily turn around and shoot an ally in the back as those you claim to be against. He platforms leftist ideology. This is a game of influence and public opinion and you choose to shoot yourself in the foot over purity concerns? The amount of comments I see in this thread akin to "I didn't even watch the content but fuck this guy."

    No. Fuck you. Fuck you for not evaluating the information given to you and coming to your own conclusion. Trans issues? Are you kidding? Like, actually? Dude shows nothing but solidarity on his streams and this is easily accessible information to anyone who gives a shit to know what's actually going on.

    It's so infuriating to see someone in an internet media space do actual fucking praxis by exposing dumb zoomer kids to leftist ideology so they don't grow up to be chuds and some sanctimonious fucker on the internet decides that's bad because they saw a clip edited by a Nazi and decided that was enough information to make a decision.

    This is the left? Are we going to have a discussion about the value of another media figure pushing the space left or are we doing a cancel culture thing now?

    Edit: I'm sorry to be a downer folks but if you can't defend your positions you're a reactionary. I've seen nothing but unfounded accusations and empty virtue signalling like "being anti-trans is bad" without any support for the assertion that Vaush is anti-trans.

    • Mimouroto [none/use name]
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      I mean he just spent a week or two attacking other leftist creators to bully them onto his cast so he could dunk on them and gain clout. How the fuck is that praxis or solidarity? He is a grifter building his brand and will go full lib as soon as his bank account is high enough.

      • it_that_follows [none/use name]
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        Source please? Which leftist creators? What constitutes his "bullying"?

        How is exposing the public to leftist ideology not praxis? Praxis is not subjective.

        Edit: nothing? Nothing at all?

        • TheMagicBurro [comrade/them]
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          He's referring to the class reductionist claims he did a few weeks back. Called Peter Coffin, Angie Speaks, and a number of other leftists (and fuckin Glen Greenwald lumped in for some reason) class reductionists, then used that to try to get them to come on his show and defend themselves.

          It was pretty laughably clear he hasn't really engaged with any of their work if he was calling them class reductionists. And he kinda called out Angie specifically as dumb (his words) even though her and Peter Coffin have the same core ideology and say the same things re:class and race. It was just kinda weird he listed a ton of white people then one black woman who he called dumb specifically.

          Here's one of the clips. You can find more Twitter drama about this if you go to like any of their timelines on the 17/18th.

        • RadimirLenin [he/him]
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          The only thing I can think of that would count as bullying is going after Thoughtslime for not apologizing to Xanderhal over the dumb sex cult shit he was wrong about and doubled down on. I love the Slimeyboi but he really should have apologized to Xan. Otherwise I can't think of anyone else Vaush has "bullied" in the two months I've been watching him.

        • Mimouroto [none/use name]
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          Lol at the fact you came back and edited this, demanding an answer. No wonder you like him.

    • BabyBilly [none/use name]
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      I think Vaush is generally fine, but one thing he did that stuck out to me as odd is he made a video defending himself from being cancelled a while back and apparently he said something about how his life would be easier if a trans person killed themself or something to that effect, which I think is pretty damn indefensible. He wrote it of as a joke, but I think failing to see how that would look to a trans person is sus. Imagine a trans person seeing one of the very people supposed to be on your side "jokingly" say something l like that which many, many people believe in full ernesty.

      I know he is smart enough to understand that, but he took a very bro-y, Joe Rogan-esque stance on it.

      Again, generally he's fine. Critical support and all that.

      • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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        He talked to his chat and said if y'all weren't here my life would be easier or sth to that extend. All his chat is trans and the guy literally fights for trans people most days in debates with dumb fucks...