• Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    People are used to musicians' "radicalism" being an utterly vague pretense.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I mean RATM aren't, like, perfect but they're at least not ridiculously vague.

        • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I'm pretty sure the only wrong political opinion I've heard from them was supporting Sonderos Luminoso, which is like the only movement I will excuse people calling red fascist.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah they fucked up there, although they rescinded support. Either way, they do come off as a little bit fake-ish sometimes, better than other similar bands though.

            • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              this is what happens when you play in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame combo groups a few too many times

              :pigmask-parodied:

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Somebody on the old sub once posted that when he first heard the Renegades of Funk cover, they thought RATM were singing "we're the redneck gays that fuck" and that's what i've been hearing ever since.

        • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Are you saying that the concept of covering songs by other bands is vague socdem reactionary bullshit?

          Renegades admittedly did have their worst recording of Ghost of Tom Joad tho.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          4 years ago

          Spent a lot of time sucking up to the Bush's and Clinton's to do the Bill Gates style Africa charity circuit, mostly.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Remember some time ago when he dressed up like the devil or whatever and boomer chuds freaked the fuck out presumably because they thought it was real?

              • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                That's the one: https://m.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/u2s-devilish-bono-takes-neo-nazis-trump-berlin/3509643/

                I remember boomers and conspiracy weirdos shitting their pants about it for some reason.

                Like check this out: https://u2start.com/topic/11786/.

    • RobotnikFeminism [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      "Those who died" = Evangelical Christians

      "The chosen whites" = liberal college professors

      What they're telling you to do = renounce Jesus and get gay married to a Muslim

      • D61 [any]
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        4 years ago

        I'd think the "librul college professors" would be the "ones who work forces"

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Are the same that burn crosses = Democrats, the party of the KKK

  • RobotnikFeminism [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The funny thing with RATM was that conservatives were always lampooning them during their peak of popularity. They were definitely seen as an extension of the 'Che t-shirt' chic of the time. I guess conservatives complain about so much shit that they can't remember when they've already complained about something.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Sometimes I think their reasoning is something along the line of "our heroes were total pieces of shit so therefore your heroes has to be as well".

        • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Not to turn socdem and defend western empire but moving beyond the big names were there any American revolutionaries that were okay? Like I don't know much about Washington besides the fact that he required that his precious tea sets accompany him to the war theatre, which I guess is as charming as it is probably suspect.

          I mean they palled around with rapist slaveowners if they weren't ones themselves. On the other hand they did sign off on Jefferson (see previous sentence) changing Locke's very suspect libertarian line "life, liberty, and pursuit of property" into the obviously much better "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." So did a couple good ones sneak through? If we are always going to acktually Adam Smith's capitalist tendencies I don't see why there isn't room for critical support for...I don't know, let's say Franklin?

  • Abraxiel
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    4 years ago

    Can't believe the guys who did "People of the Sun" don't support settler colonialism.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Fine, it's not like I wanted to dom you or anything :angery:

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    if they supported israel nobody would call them out for being "political" lmao

  • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    don't you hate it when your childhood heroes go mask off and reveal who they really are? When you think about it, it's kind of hypocritical that a band that covered "Street Fighting Man" would also support men fighting in the street.