It was such a perfect ending to the series. Until it wasn't.
I liked Frieza better. Partly because the whole Namek arc was this cool cat and mouse race to find the dragon balls while ducking him. Trying to trust former baddie Vegeta. Then it being Piccolo's home coming. Finally the face off with the strongest being in the universe. The ending of Goku achieving the legendary super saiyan to Vegeta's shock, bittersweet for him because it wasn't him doing it but he got to see Frieza eat shit. Then finally a cliff hanger if Goku survives Namek explodin' or not.
The series felt very [insert universe strongest baddie here] after Frieza. Okay maybe a pass for the androids because it was cool to see Future Trunks but I didn't like Cell and I really stopped paying attention during Buu.
The Frieza saga was the last real story arc in the series. It had a coherent premise for the fighting and powering up and whatnot, along with fun character development and stakes that felt relevant to said characters. Everything after felt like the anime adaptation of a fighting game.
Everything after felt like the anime adaptation of a fighting game.
Apt. Everything felt very video-game-y afterwards.
Cell Saga was cool because even the lower power fighters made some contributions. From Buu Saga forward it's just the story of super saiyans. Except Tien, who made an attempt at Buu cause he's a wild man.
Future Trunks is maybe my fav character that isn't Goku, but i'm a sucker for time travel shit. The History of Trunks movie was great.
I think it would've been fine to continue if they had actually committed to handing off the protagonist stick to Gohan. Let people actually die so there can be permanent consequences at any point in the future of the story, keep things fresh, focus on different kinds of stories, etc. As long as it's the Goku and Vegeta show they're going to be getting up to the same shit, but Gohan could've moved the story in a genuinely new direction and let it evolve.
As it is, though, it's basically just marvel-tier slop. Which is fine I guess. I do like the slop. I see the big meat man go rawr and shake the universe and i go pog
This is where I'm at, because you know Dragon Ball has always been Dragon Ball. That doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be better, but people genuinely enjoyed the TOP arc.
Agreed. The theme of fatherhood is so strong in that saga, which is the perfect theme for ending your series with a handoff to the protagonist's son. Buu Saga went on too long, DB Super honestly feels like Dragon Ball's "Zombie Simpsons" era - and now they're gonna tack even more into the universe because
Just let it die damn.
ive watched some of super, it's hilarious how they have to keep making up new SSJ stages. Oh so theyre blue now.
Super saiyan god vs Beerus - the energy of the fight is enough to destroy the multiverse
Two super saiyan god super saiyans (yes that's what the blue haired form is called lmao) - no problems mate why do you ask
Anyway the show rocks, peak kino
I still don't under why they couldn't just call Super Saiyan God (the red form) just Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue (or whatever the fuck the blue form is called) Super Saiyan God, like???? Super Saiyan God literally looks like base form Goku but with red hair and Super Saiyan Blue looks like SSJ Goku but with blue hair
Because Blue wasn't in anyone's mind when Toriyama made up Super Saiyan God for the Battle of Gods movie. It was just an asspull for the RoF movie.
huh I didn't know that! explains a lot actually. they still couldn't make up a better name for blue though huh
I've never bothered to see anything past the original manga but I've always loved the design of SSJ4 because it ties everything back to the original Journey to the West Monkey King inspiration.
In the new stuff they just give Goku red, blue and grey hair
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Also holy Christ does Super look godawful. Did all the animators on it have two broken wrists
I saw a little bit of Super in rehab, one of the guys was a fan of the show and I was like yeesh, it was so weird because the fights had really fast edits that made it feel like youtube clips spliced together. And the story behind it was yet another big ol' dumb tournament in the after life.
Agreed but without buu saga we couldn't have the bestest (and most campiest) form ever - SSJ3
The buu saga was funny, or fat buu was? Fat Buu is entertaining at least.
Fat Buu becoming friends with Hercule specifically was great
The Great Saiyaman Arc and parts of the World Tournament Arc right afterwards are actually the highlight of the series to me (subs, if that matters). They're just so silly and low stakes and don't spend hours fighting the same fight. Like, I was actually laughing at Goten and Trunks in a trench coat.
Mostly agree, I like Buu well enough but the saga dragged on terribly. Super has been 90% miss for me, though I thoroughly enjoyed the two most recent movies. Piccolo was always my favorite character and anything that makes him relevant again gets my uncritical support. DB Super Hero even follows up on a bit of that Cell saga Gohan focus that got abandoned with Buu.
yea i did like that Piccolo movie that came out last year or whenever.
Idk I MOSTLY agree but then we wouldnt have gotten Vegeta's sacrifice yaknow? And thats big doins.
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Nah, this really isn't that. This is a common opinion even among fans of the show and the parts of the show which came after the point being referenced. The Cell arc was really written as a finale, or at the very least as a major shift to the status quo, and all that was undone in the next arc where it became very apparent how shamelessly they were going to keep milking this universe.
Yeah I'm just fuckin around, I haven't seen past Frieza so I have no idea
but I liked Gohan's high school arc. Toriyama should've committed to the super sentai bit.
Wasn't there some later story arc where pretty much everyone on planet Earth was killed except for a few Z-Fighters and it was just a "oh shit that just happened, ok moving on" moment in the overall series?
Everyone on earth has been killed a few times but it never stuck. Except in the timeline Future Trunks is from where ... yeah everyone in the entire universe was killed and they were just like "well that sucks"
yeah everyone in the entire universe was killed and they were just like "well that sucks"
Hey now,
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They also doubled the number of Zenos
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Agree, Buu very quickly went off the rails and down hill. But as an old guy, Super is the remake of GT right?
Super isn't a remake of anything, it's a direct continuation of the story after Z and has basically no similarities to GT at all. Except for arguably being not very good.
I like super 1000x better than GT, tbh. GT tried too hard to be edgy.
Except for arguably being not very good.
Would you like it more or less if they removed every plot not centered on food?
at the ending of Super so I can't judge
