“The Islamic Emirate doesn’t want women to be victims” Samangani said, using the militants’ term for Afghanistan. “They should be in government structure according to Shariah law.”
He added: “The structure of government is not fully clear, but based on experience, there should be a fully Islamic leadership and all sides should join.”
Pretty sure they also did not expect to win so quickly
They only need to beat a rate of about 25% of women in legislature to be more woke than the US lol
I deeply want this to happen. Not out of spite, but for uh feminism.
The libs will immediately use that to say "look, we did a good thing for people in Afghanistan!"
Damn, true. Plus smug mockery doesn't really do much to effect real change (much like representation politics)...probably why spite is a poor substitute for ideological clarity.
Personally I was expecting them to open up a little in order to be like "Hey international community, we are Afghan now look we are a valid country acting as a valid country" and while it will still be shitty, it probably won't be much worse than what's already out there.
Macron Le' Pew: Sacré bleu! What is a nice country like you doing all by itself?! Macron will sooth you, enrich you, and probe every inch of you! Muwahhh! Muwahh! Awwhuhuhuhhh!
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lol, it'll be fun if things go really well over there and we get to see chuds continue their scaremongering about Shariah law, but now because it's too "woke" for them
I think it'll be like last time where they claimed to want to leave power one a 'good islamic' government was formed, and then just didn't
I feel like nowadays it’s a bit less acceptable to cooperate with a near universal terrorist government
Seems people don't tell the US to tone it down very often.
I really don't want to go to much into it, but while there are material differences between the groups mentioned the idea that the US government is NOT terroristic is quite funny. The only way to hold that point of view in my opinion is to take the US elite definitions of terrorist and ignore others.
The Taliban et al. have beheading videos as an official communication method. Not exactly conventional.
The US has drone strikes, airstrikes, execution videos, letting people die for economic reasons as official communication method. Not exactly conventional.
I think a lot of people here are used to arguing with redditors, so they'll see disagreements when there are none.
These methods are unfortunately so conventional that must people actively ignores them.
Pakistan had ties, but support is a strong word to use. they basically were completely alone. honestly this time they seem to be going for a more international diplomatic stance if anything
The consolidation of power is the relevant part now. The Taliban are as homogeneous as Trotskists (well maybe a bit more homogenous, but you know), the point is they have factions and after occupation the power balance, the material and social relations are quite different than during it.
Now we will see which structures remain, which will be built and which will create contradictions and dynamics. If there is a wing that wants 1990s Taliban and they get to create the structures which support their thinking over time we will see some splits. If there is a more materialist faction and the people dominating they will act different of course.
International power plays a role, but also the mindset of the population and the consciousness and power of women. However political power (in civil war) stems partially from the barrel of the gun and that are not women right now.
With other words: I got no clue what might happen, but am aware that now things will unfold fast and with a bit of chance according to the current realities at work.
I think the Taliban today is a broader movement than in the 1990's. While the old beheading-afficionados are still there, other groupings might see that a less bloody approach could help them start in power by building popular support. Also Russia and China maintaining diplomatic relations with them might also give them a reason to be more moderate.
It is still very unclear how the new Afghanistan will be.
It's also a lot easier to ban women from having jobs when they already generally don't have jobs. Those skills are slightly wider spread now than they were at the end of the Soviet era, and can contribute to the stability of the new government.
There was also two decades of men in their 20s and 30s dying in war. They might just need women for many industries because there aren't enough men with technical skills.
Ok 2 possibilities:
— They’re looking for credible tokens/flak - your Candace Owens’ or Anne Paulk’s to channel and shield their regressive policies
— Their primary goal really is just stability right now, which means some compromise.
I’m leaning heavily toward 1 but I’m open to being surprised. Certainly what we won’t see though is any revival of left politics like happened electorally in bits and pieces across Iraq.
While I think a lot of it is #2, fundamentalists of patriarchal religions will often cloak repressive ideals under a line of "oh we're actually the real feminists and our beliefs are liberating for women". And they often genuinely believe this. Growing up around fundamentalist Evangelicals, I heard this line all the time. Check out Evangelical Twitter and see all the women talking about how "Biblical headship" is good actually. Wouldn't be surprised if something like that is going on here.
The old "we're protecting women by keeping them out of the workforce and giving them shopping money (as long as they fill the role of homemaker)" routine.
I'm not about to hand them any credit just yet, but I imagine uniting the various factions of the country needed to carry out such a decicive campaign against the US-installed government required some degree of moderation. Enforcing pedantic fundamentalism is not a recipe for building this sort of coalition. We'll have to see what happens now that their common enemy has been driven out of the picture.
Step 2: Engage Physically
Step 3: Nurture Dependence
Step 4: Neglect Emotionally
Step 5: Inspire Hope
Step 6: Separate entirely
eyyy let's go Taliban hope they build a government the brings peace, stability and enrichment for the Afghan people. Amnesty is a good first step.
Could just be a bit of practicality. I'm sure that 20 years of warfare significantly reduced the population of men in their 20s and 30s.
