This may be the dumbest struggle session in the history of this site. Everyone voicing any kind of opinion about Hasan Piker needs to log off. I couldn't even figure out what the fuck any of you were talking about until like 3 threads in.
This is the first comment I saw opening the thread and it will be the last. Thank you for your service, and you're absolutely right, I really don't care lol not gonna read the debate
"A socialist can own the house they live in."
"No they can't."
"Yes they can."
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Socialism is when you pay landlords in perpetuity for the privilege of living indoors instead of paying a bank for 30 years.
I'm a queen of garbage sitting on a throne of trash.
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I gotta say, this is my favourite struggle session so far. Bravo :rat-salute:
When you put it like that, I've gotta throw out a :rat-salute:
Is it happening on this site? I haven't seen it here, just Twitter.
You don't care about himbos!? And you call yourself a leftist.
This is the stupidest struggle session in Hexbear history, a record which will be broken by every subsequent struggle session in Hexbear history
You're welcome
I truly don't understand how or why this has escalated into a struggle session
This doesn't have anything to do with tossing car batteries into the ocean
The car battery is at the bottom of the crab bucket to weigh it down.
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Jokes on you, I inherited my gran's house that she was given by a (since deposed) communist government. I'm also the only person in my circle of friends that owns a house, wonder why.
NO because I imagine I am general secretary of a vanguard party and all the online leftist and leftish personalities are members of that party and we would lead the revolution together and when they misbehave I have to discipline them so this is ackshually very important and everyone should care.
what kind of lumpen subhuman vermin don't know the ins and outs of home ownership
Not posting is an option. Every day, we fail to take it. But it is an option.
What point exactly do you think you're making here? A good socialist shouldn't know how loans work?
The point I was making is that they sound incredibly classist. Thank you for your inquiry.
Knowing that you can buy a house on mortgage isn't uniquely bourgeois. In fact that's the only way most working people can even dream of owning a home.
These mfers really in this thread like gommunism no toothbrush unironically :chairman-moa:
Knowing what a mortgage is makes you classist? Mortgages are a layaway plan for housing. The ultra wealthy buy their homes in cash lol
It's classist to know about financing because only rich people need loans
You're on a website where we literally have users ask for help with food money on a semi routine basis... Many of us have physical / mental disabilities that pretty much guarantee we'll never be able to own homes. Maybe bragging about how smart you are in that context isn't the best look.
I work two jobs and am housing insecure go virtue signal in another thread sweetie.
Yeah I'm a fucking genius for knowing mortgages exist and people don't pay for houses up front. That is really normal to know. Being able to own a home has nothing to do with knowing the bare basics of how they're normally bought. This isn't some complex aspect of financing that only people who have gotten it may know, it's that mortgages exist.
Many of us have physical / mental disabilities that pretty much guarantee we’ll never be able to own homes
Neither will like 95% of us, even thise of us who aren’t struggling for food anymore.
rofl i seriously don’t get western leftists who attack people marginally better off than them compared to people in the global south
That was one of my first I thoughts about this as well. He could be screwing himself in the long run.
This has truly been my favorite part of this whole struggle session and it's not just here, literally every time I see people talking about this they throw around $3 million like that means Hasan is a multimillionaire paying for a house by writing a check
the thing to do is to let the crab climb out of the bucket and wave your little claw goodbye knowing that he will watch video of you being boiled alive and consumed on his crabphone from his nice house
Every leftist should live in a squat or a tent. If you live in an apartment or pay rent to a landlord, then you are a class traitor because you economically support landlords.
2.5 million dollars is a lot of money. While it is correct that you cannot own a nice house in LA for less than that, you do not have to own property in LA. You could spend a tenth of that to own a much nicer property elsewhere that you can travel to on weekends or whatever, if you both MUST work in LA and MUST own property.
2.5 million is a lot of money. It's a bad look.
2.5 million is a lot of money
It sure is. Did anyone not know Hasan was making bank? Why are we upset he is being paid well for his labor?
"To uphold socialism we must eliminate poverty. Poverty is not socialism."
-Deng Xiaoping :deng-smile:
Deng memes aside, there is no human reason why anybody should be dropping millions on a house in LA, particularly not at the moment, particularly if you are a public figure who might have reason to not want to look like a decadent and detached elite.
2.5 million dollars would be much much better spent on property by, I dunno, buying a piece of wilderness the literal size of Los Angeles and either keeping it that way or turning it into Hammer City But Good, or something. To drop it on just a house, for just you, is once again a bad look.
So your only real problem is that you think it looks bad. You think it's gauche for a self-proclaimed socialist to be wealthy and successful.
I believe it is gauche for a self-proclaimed socialist to spend 2.5 million dollars on a single residence in the city of Los Angeles.:yes-chad:
no youre the crying soy wojack not chad
Anyway, I don't think socialism is about a bunch of people tut-tutting over other people's successes and image-policing them. You told VeganVelveeta to put aside the Deng memes, but you should really absorb what Deng said there- Socialism is not poverty. There is nothing wrong with being successful.
"How much could a single residence in the city of Los Angeles cost? $500.00?"
You know that people don't buy houses fully paid with cash up front right? Dude probably got a mortgage.
You know, I'm starting to think a lot of people in this thread don't know that.
Like, he'd probably have to lay down a few hundred grand up front which is nothing to sneeze at. Or he's on like a fifty year mortgage cause his credit was really good.
I dunno about you but if I had millions of dollars I think I might not continue to generate wealth for Jeff Bezos.
"How much could 1 Twitch cost? Surely the amount Twitch has paid a single streamer."
I started to napkin math this but it was getting out of control fast.
The numbers I'm using are 39,057 average viewers and 77,627 peak viewers assuming 1080p 30fps requiring 167.615 GB/s average and 333.139 Gb/s peak.
How to implement this is sensibly is well beyond my knowledge but I guess you could load balance it over 35 or so 10 Gb/s dedicated servers but you'd already be looking at over $30k/month (I only looked at ovh) with almost all of the capacity being wasted since he doesn't stream all day and will not always be at peak viewership. I don't want to think about DDOS.
Would love to hear from someone who knows how to scale this in a non-stupid way.
Probably it can only make sense to make a streaming site as a cooperative of streamers :RIchard-D-Wolff:
You do know how buying a house works right? At most the luscious himbo put down like 400k.
That's still a lot, but it's not like he has enough to be independently wealthy. :vivian-shrug:
Unpaid Interns aren't exploited, because its voluntarily.
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not really relatable. unpaid internships are usually done as some bullshit exercise to get free labor under the guise that they might later be hired. a voluntary internet cop knows full well their job is and always will be unpaid, and voluntary. if they're not okay with that, they don't have to be an internet cop. it's not difficult.
Any source on exploiting mods or other staff? I haven't heard of that.
Literally nobody pays their mods and if they did they'd be bragging about it. They're textbook exploited labor.
Edit: I forgot about this also
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/e1ibqe/hasan_exploited_my_labour_for_youtube_videos/
Apparently he ended up paying the guy.
So he paid the other guy, good. He should pay his mods too if he doesn't.
I'd do it to know that I was keeping a little piece of the biosphere alive instead of BUYING A BIG FUCKING HOUSE IN LOS ANGELES
I did. I own a small piece of land and I live on it as a mentally ill recluse and tend it. If you paid attention to my very good posting you would know this by now.
Invite Steve Baldwin and Pauly Shore into your biosphere. Hijinks ensue.
I think him buying a house outside of LA and traveling to it every weekend while also renting a tiny apartment in LA would probably be LESS ecologically sustainable than him just getting a place in LA.
Idk how decadent the place he got is, LA is expensive but I imagine even there 2.5 mil house is pretty swanky. You are maybe right he could have just gotten a cozy bungalow for like 750k and to keep his lefty cred.
"It's a bad look" is no reason to consign yourself from ever owning a home in the city you live in.
no he should buy 2 thousand acres of undeveloped land and live there instead like all the true socialists posting here.
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unironic upvote. An incredible amount of biodiversity could be preserved with that money. but I know, I know, he clap doesn't clap owe clap you clap anything
lmao love to effectively agitate by isolating myself from all of society
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An incredible amount of biodiversity could be preserved with that money
Hasan Piker hates nature. You heard it here first.
it is in fact possible to own land in one place and work in another
Liberalism in this thread so thicc you could cut it w/ a knife
Trying to cancel a dude for owning a house is hella :LIB:, I agree.
He should do "Hammer City but good" which sounds totally Marxist and not utopian
I'm sure the commune founded by a twitch streamer will definitely make socialism look good and not end like some abominable offspring of CHAZ and Fyre Festival
If you're not ready to found a big himbo commune before buying a house for your family then you're a liberal cmv
He should buy undeveloped land and hand it to us. Our exploits will generate content for his streams.
It is if you're interested in being a good influence on your babyleft audience, or appearing ideologically consistent. If you just want to be a rich twitch streamer then you do you. I, personally, would not make his choices.
2.5 million is a lot of money.
It's not a small amount. But other than guaranteeing his personal economic security, what does it get him?
What is he supposed to be doing with an unusually large pile of fuck-around cash?
That should never have happened to your dad, I'm sorry. Other workers earning higher wages isn't why we're getting less.
It’s not wrong, but in this case the comparison is between two people living in the imperial core, so it’s not applicable.
That resentment towards other workers can be used against you by the wealthy.
Yeah but for real, streamers are not workers. Streamers are self employed (typically).
They are effectively employed by the platforms they stream on and are paid through. They can even get fired (banned) if they piss off the bosses.
BUYS A TWO MILLION HOUSE IN LOS ANGELES TALKING INTO A FUCKING CAMERA
Can't believe this could happen in a place like... checks notes Hollywood.
What do you mean by "support" here? Like stan? Or buying their products? Unless you pirate 100% of your entertainment you've probably "supported" Hollywood at some point in your life.
idk how that makes you dislike online personalities? like if you could make money streaming wouldn’t you?
a dude providing entertainment to hundreds of thousands is not somehow below another worker lol. sounds pretty close to an anti sex worker take
yeah your dad got fucked and exploited, but your answer to that should be attacking the people who did that, not another worker who found a way to elevate their material wealth, in a “privileged” manner
Nobody's asking you to support them, just seems weird to get pissy at a guy for doing well for himself at a profession that doesn't exploit anyone, at least not directly
I still don't understand what's going on here, but at least i learned something new about crabs today.
Wow! I'm so glad everyone liked my meme. I'm off to go on a date with a himbo I met on a dating app. Bye everyone, see you later!
Edit: Himbo was late. I'm really going now.
