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  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Putin should force Lukashenko to step down and hand power over to the Communist Party of Belarus. They're the largest party in the country (most pols are independent) and it would own the libs more than anything I can think of. Then we can use Belarus as a go between for funneling money and weapons to new Communist militias we will form in the west.

    Sike, that won't happen it would be too cool for reality.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I saw someone suggest it sarcastically on reddit and being stoned rn my mind ran with it. Soviet Belarus backed by Russia militarily and China economically ( the end point for BRI). I could live in a soviet era apartment and smoke Cuban cigars while I negotiate deals with Chinese and Russian intelligence over pallets of ammunition to be shipped to the US and Latin America to be used to retake Bolivia and overthrow the US govt.

        • KiaKaha [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I’d love to see a class analysis of what Putin wants. What’s his power base? Does he want neoliberalism in his neighbours?

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            This comment by albanianbolshevik is a good class analysis of the current predicament in Belarus.

            Putin doesn't want neoliberalism on his doorstep any more than it already is. Belarus is the last country that isn't western-aligned on his European border. He's likely going to use this to consolidate his influence in the country, and Lukashenko seems ready to play ball. This will mean the Belarusian Bourgeoisie will be compradors to the Russian Bourgeoisie, and will likely lose some power but keep their wealth. Belarusian workers will likely be in the same position as before, whereas if the color revolution prevailed, they would be subjected to shock therapy a la 1990s Russia.

          • gammison [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            My two cents is that it's highly developed monopoly capitalism, with private owners significantly integrated into the state. When privatization went down in Russia, the party bureaucracy privatized factories in their own interests, with a much smaller section of property distributed to some employees. Everything got fragmented, then it re-congealed under the new oligarchs. The closest comparison to how Putin is acting imo is Chung Doo-hwan, the south korean army general who ran the country from 1980 to 1988. Putin really is an extremely authoritarian liberal with nationalist tendencies. He's not a fascist, he doesn't rely on stuff like the far right National Liberation Movement (though doesn't mind using them as a pawn), but instead an internal National Guard. He's fully relying on the machinery of the bourgeois state, controlled by the oligarchy that rose in the smashing and looting of the soviet economy, to rule.