"u-uhm hi 😳wiww u uhh pweez consider upgwading to windows ewevven 🥺🥺🥺🥺" FUCK NO get that government spyware shit OUT of my fucking dopamine box im fosspilled bitch

  • Sushi_Desires
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    3 years ago

    Vent session incoming

    Windows 10 pushed out an update about 2-3 weeks ago and all of a sudden my PC, which has been happily chugging along for the past 2 years without issue started getting like 6+ driver-level exceptions per day, and I'm just done. I got it much more stable (but not perfect) by uninstalling a virtual audio cable driver I was no longer experimenting with, but it is still the MS package they pushed out that fucked everything up.

    Technically I still need windows to run a bunch of CAD/CAM packages, but I will just try to dual boot to a p**a**d copy at that point. I was thinking "maybe the 'windows 11 health check tool' could easily fix my IRQL blue screen" but when I went to run it, they literally make you consent up front to data collection from a fucking diagnosis tool. No chance in hell will I ever run Windows 11.

    I recently experimented with running Raspbian on a Pi to set up a Pihole, and even though I don't know what the fuck I'm doing in there yet, it has been less of a hassle than windows recently

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Yeah windows does driver updates though windows update unless you turn it off. Fucked up my graphics driver until I reinstalled it

      • Grebgreb [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The last time Win10 auto updated, my computer hang at booting before restarting itself and undoing the update. I now use wub to block all of it and haven't had any problems since. I'd like to try linux but it seems like it'll just be a gamble if what I need works or not.

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Not sure what your workflow for CAD stuff is, but there's some options on Linux:

      https://itsfoss.com/cad-software-linux/

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      i finally got all the components to try my own Rasbian Pihole experiment too but i've been too busy lately to really get into it. i was thinking of using it as a catalyst to start a dual boot on my PC and start messing with different linux OS

      • Sushi_Desires
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        3 years ago

        Yeah it's been a great jumping off point, you basically just turn it on and it runs. I used the 7" 'official' touch screen, and it is surprisingly just plug and play. It feels great to know the software isn't spying on you constantly, and the way everything gets handled by the package manager is awesome. Unfortunately Pihole/DNS filtering doesn't work very well against youtube or other massive sites that serve the ads from their own domain, so I was kind of toying with the idea of using it as a media server or something

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          originally i just wanted a tiny computer to break. my dad really fucked with my head when i was younger about "breaking" computers so even though i like tinkering i want to get over my hyper perfectionism. i thought about media server too but have an older PC with a good robust mobo and server grade athlon processor i was going to do this with instead. my dream for a pi is to make a tiny retrobox for old school games. there used to be an all in one linux-based emulator software package you could download but i think it disappeared likely for IP reasons or something.

  • cawsby [he/him]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    I installed it on my test bench.

    Could not add folders to the taskbar, could not change the primary taskbar to a secondary window, and then I uninstalled.

    Removing power user features is the one thing I loathe about Microsoft more than anything.

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      3 years ago

      Does it still not have multiple desktops ? that shit has been on Unix/Linux since the 80s.

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, but it is less useable.

        They concentrated more on being able to put 8+ windows on one desktop.

        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I really don't understand why this is a reasonable design choice. Sure, you can alt-tab and that's cool, but like, why would you want to when you can just switch desktops and not have to cycle through windows because you know where they are? Windows is annoying as shit.

          • furryanarchy [comrade/them,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            They made the multiple desktops feature difficult to find accidentally and they don't have any sort of tutorial or guide or notification or anything telling you about new features. So nobody uses it. They are using the fact that nobody uses it as justification for screwing it up in Windows 11.

            Whenever a program freezes, you can switch desktops, but you can't alt+tab. So it works better than alt+tabbing does in Windows.

          • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            In 10 years microsoft will release the MS Visual tiling window manager and it will be hated by all.

    • Koa_lala [he/him]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      Also can't move the taskbar vertical anymore. Because fuck my screen real estate, apparently.

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I'm not good with computer but this site is making me want to not use windows anymore, plus I can't get rid of the 'activate windows' overlay and its annoying. Can I play my games on linux though? I don't want to have to fuck with having two different boots

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What games do you play? You dont need to get rid of windows entirely.

      As hexbear's resident overly verbose linux evangelist, ask me any questions you might have

      • hahafuck [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        A pretty wide variety, not fancy games, no triple A or anything. Smaller PC games. If Steam says it's linux compatible I assume that would be fine, but if not does that mean I would always need to boot windows for those that don't? Or does it just mean its not optimized but I could still launch them?

        • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Typically Steam will say Linux compatible for games that natively support Linux, but if you enable proton in the settings, a lot more games can be installed and run pretty well. IE GTA V runs great on proton.

          Proton is essentially a really well made wrapper around Wine, a compatibility layer to run windows programs on Linux. Its very gaming focused. While you can get it working for non-steam games, it works best for games on steam.

          If its a non steam game, look into Lutris, its a similar idea but you can install things like the epic or Ubisoft launcher and install games from there.

          Essentially one is built into steam and one is more generic.

          • hahafuck [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Its all Steam more or less. So I get the linux (I can figure out how online) and then I get Wine and then I get Proton? These are all pretty simple steps right?

            • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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              3 years ago

              All you need is steam. Just right click on any game you have and set "force use compatibility tools" it will download proton and all of that for you. Over 90% of my steam library works with no problem.

              Pirated games can get a bit trickier but you can get the majority of them working through lutris.

            • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              So for proton you're in luck, Steam essentially sets the whole thing up. Unless you're running something really weird, you rarely need to interface with wine directly anymore. Check this out https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/introduction-linux-gaming-thanks-protondb

              If you want a easier experience getting gaming stuff installed, I've heard Pop! OS is pretty beginner friendly and helps install various non-free software(free as in freedom, not beer). It should be really easy to get graphics drivers and steam installed.

              If you opt for a more generic Linux distro like Ubuntu, you can still find a basic tutorial to get you going with everything. It all depends how much hands on stuff you're up for. When in doubt, google it out. Read up and if anything doesn't make sense, break the phrases down and google each one till you know whats going on.

            • Pirate [none/use name]
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              edit-2
              3 years ago

              Yeah it's easy and there are a lot of guides and people to help :) Speaking of guides, check this one

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Gaming for Linux is getting very good right now, all my favorite games are supported. Look up all your steam games on protondb.com too see how well they'll run. Support will continue to improve as long as valve has something like the Steam Deck out.

      You said you don't really play triple-As, but one of the major things holding those back is Easy Anti-Cheat which announced a Linux port last week (don't think it'll come out till next year though).

      Biggest issue is that graphics card drivers/configuration can sometimes be a pain, but my 1070 has been doing just fine personally. It's another aspect that has come a long way.

      • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        graphics card drivers/configuration can sometimes be a pain

        Yeah AMD has an advantage in open source because they’ve dedicated way more time to working with the open source community on their drivers. Some of the open source drivers beat the proprietary ones in benchmarks and their compatibility is more guaranteed than Nvidia’s which I would recommend anyone who has one for gaming googling them before installing Linux

    • nightcrawler995 [he/him,any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      dual booting is very easy and simple, don't worry. it' s like one of the default options when installing linux

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I also have the cursed activate windows overlay lol

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        If you want to get rid of it, this is a guide (it takes like 30 seconds).

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is a guide to activating Windows 10. Takes like 30 seconds, super easy.

  • fuckwit [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    at least macs look pretty, microshit is the dude who brings nothing to the party