https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahclazarus/status/1458624042714341378

She works for the pod Johns, which I guess isn't shocking.

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    I'm not on the men's right tip or anything, but this is the exact type of Patriarchy that negatively impacts the fellas. Not only are you not allowed to have feelings in the first place, but you're undeserving of compassion because of your inability to maintain a partner. "You failed, because you're a failure as a sexual being and as a man overall", is some real slimely shit and sadly permeates through our society and discourse. Again, not on the MGTOW wave, but this is the exact type of toxic masculinity that just makes things worse for men and subsequently the people who are interested in men.

    Also is some really shitty "friend" behavior.

    Remember y'all we are out here building up our homies now! 🧑‍🤝‍🧑

    • Gonzalo [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This is a great example of why feminism benefits men as well.

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yup! Dismantling patriarchy is always the goal. Really one of those instance of a win-win for everyone. I wish feminism as it is today wasn't so interwoven with the gross "zero sum" mentality that so many modern dudes have been misled into thinking. We get a wider range of expression when feminism is implemented, which is both cool and good.

    • Edelgard [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I’m not on the men’s right tip or anything, but

      :huh:

        • Edelgard [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          :inshallah:

          At this point I just write shit like that to upset them lol

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        I just didn't want to come off as a one of those dudes. I have voiced similar sentiments in the past online and I found just the worst types of guys agree with me. I don't rock with MGTOW or Men's Rights groups, or anything like that, but there is sadly an overlap between them and the stuff I said above. I'm just trying to make sure folks know/care for those things. Toxic masculinity is awful and should be an opportunity for solidarity rather than the butt of the joke as it often (not saying you can't make jokes about stuff either, just sayin' that toxic masculinity makes everything worse). Hopefully that comes across as sincere and not weird.

        • L183R4L [any]
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          3 years ago

          It's the same as when you criticize Dems and psycho rightoids think you are one of them. Sometimes they can identify a problem but completely miss how to actually fix it or who is causing it.

        • Lundi [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          really, you don’t need to explain yourself for not liking toxicity from some privileged twitter douche.

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Also is some really shitty “friend” behavior.

      Right? Like putting aside that she's basically being the flipside girlboss white feminist version of MGTOW not recognizing that patriarchy hurts men also: she sounds like a fucking terrible friend to have.

      Like seriously...haven't we all had a friend (man, woman, or they) who has called on us looking for comfort and in our head we thought: "yeah...you maybe kinda set yourself up for this." Except we don't say that thought out loud. At least not right then.

      Right then we focus on supporting and validating their pain and their feelings because they're our fucking friend goddamn it! This isn't hard.

        • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          is this unironic chauvinism? is that the world we live in? where unironic female chauvinism is rampant and a woman on twitter reads the room and decides "my audience of a bunch of women are all parasitic, conniving bloodsuckers so I'm sure they'll get a kick out of this totally sincere, unironic chauvinism I'm about to post on twitter"?

            • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              imv It's a variant on the joke where one character says, "I just broke up with my girlfriend!"

              Then the well-meaning-but-awkward friend / acerbic parent will say "Well, you're never going to do so well as her again!"

              I feel like That 70's Show did this a lot with Eric and Donna's relationship, if you watched that. Sort of a kick the puppy joke, you find someone who's mourning then say something that makes it worse because it's hilariously true.

            • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              the joke is that she sided with the woman instead of her friend so she inverted the usual "my friend just got dumped" stock phrases

              • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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                3 years ago

                I see. She should probably have used 3 stock phrases then, to improve the joke density and cut the verbal shrug at the end.

                • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  You guys are way too ready to read this tweet in an unrealistically hostile “we use our bodies to manipulate men, right sisters? hahaha look at them grovel, those dogs” cartoon harpy voice

          • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            idk if it's ironic or unironic, I think the joke sort of rests on that. I'm not accusing anyone in this of being a parasitic bloodsucker. I just found it to be a mean joke, and certainly not a joke that would arise from solidarity.

            • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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              idk man, I haven't seen a single she/her comrade get offended in this thread, and I think it's because they spend more time in female-skewing spaces online and listening to other women's jokes in person and and they have a better ear for tone in the jokes other women tell

              • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                i'll admit i might be a little reactive to this, lmao. if i heard this joke irl i'd probably take it in stride

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        I can see that angle. In and of itself, it's harmless joke and instances of female solidarity are always dope. That said, when she uses the qualifier "friend" it changes the context a lot. I clown on my boyz all the time; but when someone is hurting, that's probably not a great time to remind them of their supposed inferiority. I'm not saying you're sayin' that, of course, I'm just saying this joke changes a lot when one says that they're someone's friend. At least, it does for me.