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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Previous megathreads
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I don't think people realise how big a deal Russia having functional hypersonic missiles that fly at twelve times the speed of sound, that can be delivered by fighter jets that can fly at three times the speed of sound, and can be equipped with nuclear warheads, is. Every US and NATO air defence is now useless. Every aircraft carrier is a floating coffin and pile of scrap. It's shut down US power projection big time. You won't be seeing serious calls for no fly zones in Ukraine or Syria anytime soon now.
Yes, this is a very big deal. I read somewhere they used it to blow up 500m worth of US supplied munitions. They also used another one today.
I know my government wants me to be afraid of this. My fears are of the US/NATO doing something extremely stupid, and since Russia used this tech, I am actually less anxious.
Yes, anything that scares the US away from thinking there would be a positive outcome for them by pushing the boundaries for WWIII is a good thing.
Assuming the US analysts believe the reports, are they all staring at their hands thinking "What did we do with all that money?"
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Actually you're understating just how terrifying these things are. They can fly at thirteen times the speed of sound, and are capable of maneuvers at that speed.
NATO ought be shitting themselves rn
Yeah the missiles can go that fast, the fighter jets that deliver the missiles can't.
Oh I see, I misunderstood what you were saying. My bad
And the other country that have hypersonic missile is their neighbor on the east, which will cooperate and upgrade that missile to another level.
Yeah, and the missiles themselves can be a big form of power projection, think Cuban missile crisis v2, this is a serious thing that the west doesn't have an answer to.
All US generals know after WW2 is bomb third world countries, eat agent orange and deplete uranium.
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Yeah, even before hypersonic missiles aircraft carriers were already in a precarious position is a peer conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
I'm totally ignorant of this stuff. So is this a show of something that likely only Russia has? Do we know if the US has anything equivalent?
Congress halved the budget for the Mach 20 AGM-183 (which is apparently what Trump was referring to as the “super-duper missile”) just this month :data-laughing:
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I’m learning about control systems/controls engineering and the Soviet Union was way ahead of this time in this domain.
Essentially, western control theory was focused on communication as it was born, and got to use a couple shortcuts that work well in that context (the “frequency domain”, which focuses on 1 input and 1 output).
I dunno what the Soviet Union was doing controls for (certainly military, almost certainly automating industrial production), but they were the only people who stuck with big ass systems of differential equations.
The latter is known as “modern control theory” and, while much more arduous/computationally demanding, is way more widely applicable.
My point is just that I totally believe Russian science has some areas where it’s just way more successful
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I would like to subscribe to Soviet metallurgy facts
Do you have any good links or even book recommendations that discuss this history?
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Read it later
That's great, thank you. I guess I'll have to access the .pdf after booting TAILS up on a computer at some library out of town with my phone left at home though.
Thanks for sharing, super interesting! My initial reaction was one of cynicism, but then I remembered the west’s tendency to lose its ability to use advanced technologies itself developed, let alone adopting those outside of its orthodoxies:
It’s amazing how deep the propagandised idea of western superiority/invincibility can run, but then gradually falls apart under inspection, like an F-117A over Serbia
USA caught with their pants down there...
I'm reading an article about that missile. Apparently...
:tito-laugh:
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Well China seems to have one operational model, North Korea has done some testing. And Russia now has combat tested ones. The US is still in the testing and development phase, they are aiming to bring their first models into operation sometime this year. But it's unlikely it will be as good as the already combat capable Russian ones for a while. The US government will definitely be pushing for it though.
So does this technology essentially make all missile defense systems the world over obsolete? (Edit: I mean like especially once the West has similar capability.) It sounds like anyone can nuke anyone else at any time so it hardly matters whether or not there are enemies directly on the boarder, at least in terms of missile attacks.
There's considerable question whether any missile defense systems actually worked in the first place.
You see videos of iron dome working every once in a while, but their munitions are pretty jerry rigged. Nothing as technologically sophisticated as a hypersonic missile.
Iron Dome has a significant failure rate against qassam rockets that are literally welded together from junk lying around in Palestine.
So Star Wars II
Yeah, if the missile itself can fly at twelve times the speed of sound while making evasive maneuvers, air defence is now obsolete. Unless you're planning to use lasers to take out the missiles, but that technology is still far away. But yeah, nothing anyone can do to stop this kind of missile attack, conventional or nuclear. And the west has no equivalent as of now.
It also gives the target much less time to react and retaliate, if they can even retaliate before the missile hits.
Holy shit this truly is game-changing. Seems like this could even tip the balance of MAD to only the West being assured destruction.
Nah nato has enough nuclear subs and international force projection to hit the Russians. Also they are the ones who are open to doing a first strike
In some ways maybe, but dead man's switches exist. And nuclear capable submarines.
Couldn’t you just coat the outside of the missile in a mirror and reflect most of the laser? Am I dumb?
That probably wouldn't work in the first place and the coating for a hypersonic missile needs to be able to resist the heat caused from moving at hypersonic speeds.
Seems like a solvable problem with modern material science, I’m just wondering if my base idea would work or not. Aren’t lasers completely countered by mirrors?
I mean reflective coatings only reflect some of the light not all. Also, that's literally the opposite of what you want to do for radar stealth.
Just FYI, missile defence systems were never good. Their capacity to shoot down incoming cruise missiles has always been a last ditch effort. They've always been most effective against infantry scale anti-tank weapons which have to balance payload, range, and missile speed.
Kim Has them too it seems .. (or china has a sheme running with him on testing)
Everything im reading seems to agree with this post scientifically, yet of course US media is downaying its significance. Seems like a hellbof a weapon tho..
The US has no equivalent as of now, it's why they're so silent.
^ SERIOUSLY PEOPLE !!!!! THATS FUCKING TABULA RASE , Strategic , Deterence , Navy , missile Defense , Weaponsales , Nukes..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal
mach 10 - 13 , more then 2000 km range ... carried by much of the Arsenal .. normal Jets .. (12,300–14,700 km/h;) again (12,300–14,700 km/h;)!!!
Its "Brave New World" , they will not tell you a Thing about this Missile so big is it ..
Imaging all the Military contractors that are Selling "sailingships" now .. like the Patriot ... or the Arleight Burk ...
Edit Look at Youtube , just foreign Language ( nearly , for me ) ... no English ... Psssttt ....
And the US is behind on hypersonic missile technology development. Not even an operational model yet, still running tests. They'll be pushing for it hard, so they can have an equivalent, right now they don't.
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Air defense was already a bit of a joke, TBH, at least with regard to shooting down missiles (hitting any planes that carry them is a little different). If you look at real, honest appraisals of how effective missile defense systems are, the absolute best estimates are like 20-30%, and more probable ones fall at more like 5% or less (yes, this very much includes Israel's Iron Dome; forget the propaganda of the IDF and weapons contractors themselves). The reality is that the only effective form of "missile defense" is...well, it's actually just crypto-speak for hitting known missile silos as part of an offensive operation, not waiting until the missiles are already in the air and then praying.
Yeah, it already was shaky to begin with. But hypersonic missiles have just destroyed any illusions of it being effective.