If you don’t understand this, you get to go to a free re-education camp! :yes-hahaha-yes-l:
Working for less than minimum wage because you are a contractor, awesome. Cool. Thanks.
“Here’s your Doordash order….”
Just wait. It’s becoming literal slavery. They pay less than the local minimum wage where i live. They are re-creating slavery with extra steps.
Things like Uber giving you a car loan and making you work to pay it back are pretty much indentured servitude, slavery is a bit much let’s not underplay the horror of that institution
This is a problem that comes up with a lot of white people who try to deny the horrors of slavery. They point out that all cultures and races have had slavery throughout history. The chattel slavery of the Atlantic Slave Trade in the Americas was particularly brutal in that it was racialized and that they enslaved the children of slaves, which created institutional pressure for slaves to have kids. A lot of the awful conditions were particularly bad, even by slavery’s terms, because of these pressures. There was no situation in which a white person could become so poor or unfortunate that, not only would they become enslaved, but all of their children and their children’s children would become slaves. There was also not situation in which a white person could be so poor or unfortunate that they would spontaneously change race. The torture and murder this enabled is what most modern westerners think about when they think of slavery, which is why the comparison is at least misguided. But I do think that in terms of prior forms of slavery, that wage slavery is an apt comparison. The whole point is that markets put an abstraction over top of the exploitation
Having done that shit for a little while it does feel like a next level of exploitation (which it is) but as porkrollposadist pointed out it's the return of piecework. It's just a more naked form of coerced exploitation than wage slavery.
As someone who doordashes full time I find that rich people tip the worst. Some poor people don’t tip at all. But most shitty neiborhoods I deliver to actually tip me pretty good. Same with middle class people it’s either no tip or a good one. Rich people usually give me like 2 dollars on their 170 dollar order. Although on occasion I’ll get a good rich person who tips me like 20 dollars but that’s 1/10 mansions
It's not the same obviously but I used to wait tables and we had a patron who was a minor local celebrity for being a successful small business tyrant and she was a notoriously demanding table and a $1 tipper.
I drove for a few of them for awhile and they're so sleazy in so many ways. Like they partnered with both car and rental companies and try to get so many people further indebted by enticing them with terrible offers for leasing cars or renting them. They also are opening up their own line of credit cards and shit now. They want their hands into every aspect of the drivers lives to pidgin hole them into being extremely dependent on them for something that is marketed as "independent contractor" and "be your own boss" garbage
All while they can deactivate you over customer lies and pretty much any reason they see fit. Or just automated errors even
I expect we will live to see true neo-feudalism in our lifetimes. Company towns with private law enforcement, special passes for who can enter restricted private land, company scrip and company owned housing.
Depends on where it is. In atlanta I make like 20 an hour minus gas at worst and around 35 at best. Also I do tax fraud with my tips so no this comment is wrong. It also depends on ur car entirely. If u have a 3 grand Prius with 60mpg it’s a lot more profitable. As well as this u have to understand to only work past 5 pm. And only take orders with a ratio of 2 dollars to mile. My accepterance rate of orders is usually like 3% btw. That’s how u make insanely good money doing it. I work like 50 hours a week and bring home Atleast 1k each week which is a respectable living. Gas only takes off like 100 bucks. Again tho this depends on ur car. It’s also very easy to do tax fraud so even more savings and it’s not double taxed and u can lie about ur tips which make up like 80% of the money u get lol. I will say tho. Outside of a major city Doordash is a scam. In a major city tho expect to average 25 an hour which is much better than my previous job of 10 an hour. Also I pay like 20% of the taxes a normal person does there’s no tax on the order it’s already built in and 80% of money comes from tips which u can lie to the government about. On my tax form I deadass make like 5 an hour. This means I only pay 20% or less lmao. I make 50k a year doing this but I pay the tax of someone making 10k a year.
This is a good example on how the exploitation works. By gaming the system and picking off the best orders you're making good money but these type of comments are Survivorship bias . Doordash model makes money off of all the orders in aggregate and needs a steady supply of churners to pick up all the rest of the orders and deliver. MTurk has the same model. When it started I did it for six months and made +$20 hour by figuring out the system and using software to snag the best jobs but amazon makes money from all the penny machine learning jobs and not the occasional $15 psych study. By gaming it I helped guarantee new people on the bottom would churn $2 hour for a month and wash out. The insidious nature of it is that they use us to exploit ourselves.
