For real, it's the one thing giving me hope for the future

  • CommCat [none/use name]
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    The CCP is not Socialist, it is Nationalist, its goal is to create a strong China that can rival the US. It`s leaders understand that neoliberalism will lead to disaster, and that capitalism under the firm control of the CCP is much better for creating a strong China. Sure, its competition with the US is useful for relieving US imperialist pressure, but if you're working towards a Communist world, you're in for major disappointment if you think China is the answer.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      China is not in the socialist mode of production but they are run by Marxists. They're navigating their way through the trajectory laid out by historical materialism building capitalist industrial production before transition to socialism.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          frankly xi jinping is farther left than the other guys that came before him. i think the chinese legitimately had the cia fooled and they figured they'd make good partners. the US shipped a bunch of industry over and taught them how to use it.

          the fact of the matter is that many chinese have seen their incomes multiply by ten fold, while having a purchasing power similar to western countries in the most urbanized areas. this is practically unheard of.

          im not about to say china is perfect, but if xi jinping, a by the book lefty for his entire career, is able to catch the ire of the cia, i'd say theyre tentative allies at the least.

    • hagensfohawk [none/use name]
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      Nationalism is an appropriate response to centuries of foreign exploitation. It is a progressive force in these instances. Or do you think poorly of black nationalists as well?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          Is China's decision to do nationalism not a revolutionary tactic? I thought the idea was to try and unite all the different groups under one banner. It's not like there's a lot of Han supremacy or imperialist expansionism associated with Chinese nationalism (at least no where near as bad as white supremacy and baked in imperialism of Western nationalism). It's mostly about working hard and being nice.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              That's fair, I guess it's the same situation as the USSR in its post revolutionary revisionist state. Lots of utilization of nationalist language to try and rally the peasant class that resulted in a show burning re-ignition of toxic nationalism.

              Hopefully China doesn't go down the same path. Nationalism is a dangerous game to play.