TEETH AND CLAWS ARE OUR FIRST WEAPONS. NATURE'S WEAPONS.
Depends on what stakes you're fighting for. If you're fighting for status and don't intend to kill each other doing things that can cause permanent injury like biting, eye gouging, etc. are socially unacceptable escalations of violence. The purpose of the fight is to establish your legitimacy and masculinity through an act of ritualized violence. It's explicitly not supposed to result in permanent disability or death.
Same thing with fencing, where you're not allowed to tank a hit so you can kick someone's knee in to pieces then suplex them. That would be a socially unacceptable escalation of violence.
If you're actually trying to kill someone then all bets are off, but in many contexts fights are about asserting dominance or proving yourself or waving your dick around, not killing your opponent.
Of course all those rules and norms go out the window pretty easily. As far as I know any social conception of a "clean" fight; fists only, no kicking, no blows below the belt, no headbutting, and you stop as soon as the other guy goes down, that just doesn't exist anymore. If you throw a punch you should expect the other guy to shoot you. America is a savage and lawless place with little culture to speak of, and certainly no community or social organization left that can establish and enforce social norms of behavior.
the purpose of the fight is to establish your legitimacy and masculinity through an act of ritualized violence.
This, fighting is a social function
IDK why kicking is frowned upon, like if you're kicking high and not just aiming for the dick. I guess it's because legs have enough muscle to kill a dude where arms don't really?
u can still easily kill someone with arms but ya a proper kick is absolutely devastating
If your trying to kill someone scratching and biting seem very ineffective.
Oh yeah no shoot them or hit them with a brick. I mean, if you can bite something fleshy you can absolutely do serious damage but you should do everything in your power to avoid getting in to a situation where biting is your best option.
Nah ripping out a jugular or other large blood vessel with ur teeth is totally possible and very often fatal.
Biting and scratching are likely seen as socially unacceptable because they leave jagged wounds that heal weird and are more likely to cause infection
Yeah but have you seen cassowaries? They're basically velociraptors with those claws
If you're fighting to not be killed then it's fine but if you want to avoid being charged with something you probably shouldn't stick your thumbs in someone's orbits
I don’t think that’s right I just put about 15 into it and it’s fine. Is this like ripping a phone book, you have to work at it from the correct angle
you have to work at it from the correct angle
ding ding ding. Now, don't fucking try it. I don't like how your comment started with "that's not right I just tried". Try googling it instead of chancing mutilating yourself.
Why is pissing and shitting during a fight seen as dishonorable? WE'RE ANIMALS
Get naked and diarrhea everywhere like you're a squid shooting ink
Rough-and-tumble is no-holds-barred fighting that developed in the rural American South. The preferred finishing move was
spoiler
gouging out your opponent's eyeball.
I am a gentlemen sir. :ritzy-marx: Be careful who you call an animal heretoforthwith
If you're tearing flesh you're now out to kill is sort of a reason. Fights aren't generally attempts at murder.
If it's that kind of fight by all means though
Edit: oh cool everyone else is on the same page with that already. Good
Depends on the type of fight of course, but I can't help but think that a significant part of fighting is purely performative. Which begs the question , which aspects of fighting are actual primal instincts taking over and which are a role/gender expectation. This is why there's an implicit understanding on not hitting your opponent's nuts, you may win the fight, but are you really winning some tacit form of respect?
Remember: always use the things you cant do in combat sport. Groin and eyeballs all day every day
Amateurtip: this is not true if you're losing a fight and unnecessary if you're winning one.
You escalate the level of violence and if they don't stay down like you hope then they're pissed. It's the same philosophy behind banning war crimes in that they bar forgiveness from a conflict that might have otherwise resolved.
Well yes deescalate shityyourself whore yourself do whatever, but if they're still coming, you have to do what's effective. And ideally you have mace or another equalizer anyway
even monkeys aren't predators. what allowed humans to hunt was the invention of sharp sticks, and even then there was mostly gathering
Apparently there was some martial art in the antebellum south that focused on exactly that, with an emphasis on scratching and plucking eyes with grown-out nails. I'll see if I can find it.
Ah fuck someone already did
