https://dublinpride.ie/

This is not a joke flag.

Oh, and happy pride btw, nearly forgot to say. :hexbear-bi-2: :flag-gay-pride:

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    info@dublinpride.ie

    Send them something about it, doesn't have to be big, just contribute in some way to complaining about it.

    This is the nation state equivalent of what companies do to pride, nevermind the fact lgbt people are systemically oppressed in Ukraine.

    Can you imagine if this became a thing? The British flag jacketing pride? The American flag jacketing pride? The flags of the very countries that lgbt people have to fight against in order to not be oppressed?

    It completely misunderstands who lgbt people have to fight, why lgbt have their own flag and identity independent of the flag and identity of their nation in the first place -- it is the nation state that threatens and oppresses them.

    EDIT: I received a response.

    The flag in question is a) not the official flag we use, and b) was designed to show support for LGBTQ+ people in Ukraine who we have been supporting over the past few months, as well as to show solidarity with those who arrive in Ireland. One such person we have employed and we also felt it was important to show solidarity with her.

    We are well aware of the regressive and harmful actions of the Ukrainian state, and as we liaise frequently with LGBT+ organisations operating there, we know full well that it is not a nation worthy of merit in terms of equal rights for minorities. However, we felt it was important to show solidarity as mentioned above.

    You may not agree with this position and that is your right but I just wanted to shed some light on it.

    Cheers,

    Jamie

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      the flag still feels weird, but this sounds like an honest and well-informed response. back when i was in Berlin recently, which is a major transit hub for Ukrainian refugess moving westwards, i saw a lot of outreach projects specifically adressing LGBT refugees from there and i think that may be the only genuinely good thing coming out of this situation. these people deserve a safe place to live and Ukraine won't be that place even if the war would end tomorrow.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        The flag IS weird. It shouldn't be jacketed, they should be two separate distinct entities, lgbtq+ people and the Ukrainian state. People may belong to both but they shouldn't be merged as if part of the same struggle, the struggle for lgbt people is against their states.

      • sin_eater [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        What if I told you they had two honest and well-informed responses? One they use on leftists, and one they used on rightoids.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "Nobody is going to be a national identity made up by Austria-Hungary in an attempt to weaken the Russian Empire in MY house!"

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Russian athletes get banned from sporting events

    Russians in Western countries face harassment and violence

    Ukrainians win Eurovision because the rest of Europe loves them so much

    Libs: We need to show Ukrainians that they don't need to be ashamed of being themselves :)

    • politicsenjoyer [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Ukrainians: Continue funding and logistics for ethnic cleansing in Nagorno Karabakh region

      Libs: ??? what r u talking about

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Genuinely insulting move given that Ukraine hasnt budged on sexually assaulting trans women at the border and forcing them to stay in a war zone.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    ALL PRIDE MATTERS

    Whether that's LGBTQ pride, white pride, Ukrainian nationalism, parents of honour roll students, or farmers with a really big pumpkin. All should be welcome.

  • fanbois [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It took me several seconds to even process this monstrosity. How can you miss the point so fucking hard.

    • Tha_Wolfman [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      ...and thinks all Slavic men are roided-up, hairy bi-tops, and gets mad when they don't fulfill his unrealistic fetishes

      • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Slavic men are roided-up, hairy bi-tops

        I'm like mostly there... I need to get roided up, and then maybe someone will want me?!

    • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      tbh maybe if I made it more known that I was half ukranian I'd pull more...

      • Tha_Wolfman [he/him,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        You could also pretend to be a refugee and have some middle aged sugar daddy parade you around to show his friends wHaT A gOoD pErSoN i aM

        • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          honestly... I wish i was a bit less ethical cuz I think I'd be so good at grifting people.

          • Tha_Wolfman [he/him,comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah same but my heart is not some vacuous void american culture wants it to be. And I look too "brown" to pass for white let alone I'm unattractive to the eyes of middle aged gay men

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    :ukkkraine: known for it's love of queer people

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    There's an alt pride being run in Dublin, thankfully, with the slogan "No corps, no terfs, no pigs"

  • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    if i see one of those in public, i'm committing a hate crime. I am half ukranian and that has no business being there.