https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2022/jun/05/queen-elizabeth-appears-as-hologram-inside-260-year-old-golden-carriage-video
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2022/jun/05/queen-elizabeth-appears-as-hologram-inside-260-year-old-golden-carriage-video
She appeared on the balcony though, looked like actual death
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Yeah I think it’s pretty clear she’s at death’s door and this whole thing is basically a sendoff for her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s dead in the next couple of months.
At which point, the fall of the UK and the Commonwealth will begin! A unified Ireland, indie Scotland and then eventually, a Tropical Independent Wales. The Caribbean is already shifting towards becoming Republics. Imagine :aus-delenda-est: or :kkkanada: having a referendum on the monarchy and delivering a “yes” to keeping King Charles III and Queen Camilla as their heads of State.
It’s gonna be a decade that breaks brains and deeply crushes the poor, as England flails towards becoming a middle income country.
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How exactly do you think the queen is vital to the UK
If anything it would be some weird superstructural thing. No one would dismiss the ability of liberals in the United States to do crazy shit as their civil religion breaks down, but a loss of a monarch can be a similarly disruptive ordeal on top of worsening material conditions in the UK
:100-com: this, thanks for stating it better than I could. A breakdown of civil religion is the right way of phrasing it.
In practical terms, not at all. Note that I’m stating correlation, not causation here! (Although I do anticipate that it will speed up commonwealth states getting rid of the the monarchy).
She does however maintain for a lot of people the dying idea of the UK as a great power, and is perhaps the last well known institutional tie to the British empire. As the UK disintegrates (which is happening regardless of the Queen existing), the comfort blanket that she represents for so many will be yanked away. The UK is undeniably on a downward trajectory materially, and a change in the monarch for the first time in 70 years is going to make that feel more real for a certain section of society. Sadly I don’t think it will result in positive reflection and realisation that a better world is possible, but more sentimentalism and petty Little Englander shit.
I've watched a lot of Call The Widwife. I didn't realize British boomers had as much weepy-eyed nostalgia for the "national greatness" in the 50s and 60s as their American counterparts do.
I’d say it’s possibly even greater nostalgia. The Queen was crowned in the same year that Eisenhower was elected (if I remember correctly) - Kissinger was still doing his PhD then. Imagine the psychic damage of having the same head of state since then, through imperial decline and the media endlessly saying what a nice old lady she is. Truly a unique set of :brainworms:
I hate the term little Englander because it lets London off the hook. London is the power that shakes Africa until all the shiny things fall out the rest of the UK is essentially just being taken along for the ride and benefits from the UK's finance imperialism only in a comparable way to the rust belt does Americas
She's a cultural anchor that, among other things, justifies and upholds the existence of hereditary nobility, increases the prestige and perceived legitimacy of the UK on the world stage, and is a focal point for the whole "united" part of United Kingdom.
canada can't do it by referrendum, it would require a consititutional ammendment. But a constitutional ammendment probably has an equal chance of getting rid of the monarchy and dissolving the country entirely
:inshallah-script:
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We can hope 🙏
We on hell island (Australia) just swore in an Assistant Minister for the Republic, which hasn't been done before as far as I know.
Referendum is LOOMING
:inshallah-script:
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Children of Men right on schedule...
Hopefully
Even ignoring the fact that monarchies are incredibly cringe by definition regardless of how healthy the monarch is, I don't see how her insisting on trying to hide the fact that she's on the verge of death is more dignified than her abdicating years ago and living out her last days in peace (or at least privacy) - Most other monarchies give an off ramp for when the king/queen starts looking like a walking corpse but for some reason she thinks it's massively uncouth, fucking baffling.
her dad(?) got offed by his doctor with a fucking speedball lmao
thought the king's death being reported by the evening papers was "undignified" so just fucking killed him lmao
uncritical support for that doctor
Lmao
Grandfather, actually.
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I think it's just purely ego, Japan's emperor abdicated for like the first time in history a couple years ago and though belief in the deity status of the emperor has clearly waned over the years, he's still technically viewed as divine while the queen at the very best is viewed as having a divine mandate, it's just pure ego.
I hope the monarchy will collapse when she goes
:inshallah:
Do they? I think the traditional solution is to let heir apparent take over representative duties, maybe even appoint him as prince-regent.
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure Dutch, Spanish and Japanese monarchs have abdicated due to old age/health issues before, or at least stepped out of the public eye and allowed a regent to take over all of the various ribbon cutting duties.
Japan's did, but it was considered a little scandalous and breaking with tradition
Yeah I think you're right. There are some monarchies that are too conservative to do that though, like the British and the Danish are good examples. Britain also have the problem of the replacement being prince Charles, who would hardly be more popular than a walking corpse.