this should end well

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Time to teach y'all a Classical Chinese phrase that, allegedly, the Chinese MFA only uses in the case of an ultimatum, so potentially something to watch for (?) —

    勿谓言之不预也 (wù wèi yán zhī bú yù yě), "Dare not say you hadn't been forewarned."

    • solaranus
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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        We have so many emoji's this site is like a trove of candy for media archeologists in the future.

        • NPa [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          yeah I'm an emojiologist with a focus on sub 50k member forums in the pre-collapse era.

          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Pictured a group of kids around a fire place in a post collapse society questioning an elder.

            "What did you do to stop the collapse?"
            "I did shitpost the finest emojis you could imagine, sure the climate wars happened and everything collapsed, but for a brief moment in time we had large adult son's and very large north Korean soldiers."

            :jesse-wtf:

            • NPa [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              "Now, see here, boy. I smuggled this Wide Putin (Extra Bass-boosted) out of the FEMA camps. I hid it up my ass for seven years while I dodged the autonomous kill-bots. Now, my son, I pass it onto you, so that you may share, like and subscribe."

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Is there any way to browse the whole list? I was trying to find the Geordie LaForge emoji but I have no idea what it's text string is.

    • jackmarxist [any]
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      2 years ago

      China probably won't do it because they're not primal warmongering savages unlike some European or Colonial nations.

      But I pray to stalin everyday that Xi shoots down the aircraft and sinks the American fleet near its waters just because Americans deserve it.

  • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I can’t find any reason why Pelosi wants to go to Taiwan in the first place. No news article gives a reason. Is it safe to assume it has something to do with chip manufacturing? US auto makers are probably shitting their pants about all the cars parked on their lots waiting for chips, I imagine they’re leaning real hard on their politicians to do something about it.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, I'm guessing on Pelosi's end this is more about chip manufacturing, which I imagine is seen as a national security issue. On China's end,I think it's standard practice for them to object to any formal recognition of Taiwan, and they're probably seeing if America blinks, but I doubt they want to escalate beyond that. Imo the fact that chip manufacturing is so important to the west makes this much different from Russia-Ukraine. A war with China will be devastating for everyone, but US and Europe will absolutely go to war while Taiwan is so pivotal to virtually every military, consumer, and industrial product in the west

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I wonder if they would still be independent if it wasn't for that.

        Or is it an entire country that exists just to make computer chips.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The country exists because of cold war (I guess technically pre-cold war) era anti-communism, and there were plans of launching an invasion of China through Taiwan. But I think computer chip manufacturing is giving them an additional layer of safety.

          • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            The KMT does not represent Taiwan. If the kmt never arrived and took over, Taiwanese would still not have identified as Chinese in nationality.

            However, if the Qing dynasty put more effort into actually controlling and governing ALL of Taiwan, and not just small parts of it, and Japan never took over, and if the kmt never retreated to Taiwan, then that would be a different story but we don't live in that timeline do we.

            Taiwan was always an island of non importance to the Qing dynasty until it became part of a naval trade route.

            • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              The KMT/DPP reactionaries and anti-communists actually do represent Taiwan now because they colonized it and killed and fully repressed the locals. This is why Taiwan should not be allowed to be “independent” from China, because it will just be a de facto military base for the Western imperialists.

              Taiwan is China, nobody disagrees with this. Not Taiwanese people nor Chinese people. The only disagreement is who is the legitimate government of China as a whole, and the answer to that is obviously the PRC

              • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Taiwan is already independent from China. The Qing dynasty did control small parts of it for like 250 years.

                will just be a de facto military base for the Western imperialists.

                Taiwan isn't a military base for anyone, not even itself. It's no Okinawa or Ukraine. Everyone agrees that their military is shit.

                Taiwan is China, nobody disagrees with this.

                The only people who actually agree with this are Chinese nationalists, either from mainland China or extremely old KMT people in Taiwan.

                The KMT/DPP reactionaries and anti-communists actually do represent Taiwan now because they colonized it and killed and fully repressed the locals.

                It was the KMT who repressed the locals. Look up the white terror period. And they're from China. The CPC should bring them back to China and redistribute their stolen assets/land. Anything taken from China should be returned to China. Anything taken from locals in Taiwan should be redistributed or returned. The DPP is just a party that counters the KMT.

                • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  The Taiwanese rightoid defender had logged on

                  China will be united again and there’s nothing you angloid colonial apologists can do about it

                  The DPP is the liberal icing on top of the fascist KMT foundation. They don’t “oppose” the KMT in any real meaningful sense, they are the equivalent of the post Pinochet “liberal” government in Chile - that is how fascist color revolts and outposts work, you put in a fascist dictator until you suppress the contradictions and kill the commies (white terror), then put in a liberal puppet to keep people content and manufacture legitimacy. Happened in Japan and South Korea too. Defending the DPP is like defending the modern South Korean government.

                  It’s a continuation of the same leadership class, and those DPP crypto-fascists will be destroyed and their junta government destroyed

                  South Korea and Taiwan will both be decolonized

    • anadyr [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Look up the CHIPS bill that's making it's way through Congress right now. $52 billion to boost chip production in the US. Mr Pelosi also invested a few million into Nvidia very recently.

      • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        $52 billion to inevitably offshore chip production to a different developing nation, good stuff :brrrrrrrrrrrr:

          • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I would be shocked if any sizeable portion of that money goes to building anything instead of stock buybacks. We've seen this same song and dance with the telecomm industry putting down fiber and the airlines during COVID.

            • ssjmarx [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              This song and dance goes back decades. I still remember the first one I learned about was when the government gave billions to airlines in the 70s in order to prevent them from doing mass layoffs, and the airlines did the layoffs anyway.

          • Crackpot_Posadist [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            They'll probably just do the bare minimum of final assembly to count as built in the USA. So, build 95% of the chip with slaves in Qatar or something then run it through a "rubber stamp" factory (that's just a warehouse) with ten MIC grifter guys running it.

          • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            No idea, I just assume any manufacturing done in the US will invariably go somewhere with lower operating costs in the shortsighted pursuit of profit

          • FirstToServe [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Bernie couldn't even get an amendment that prevents them from using the money on stock buybacks.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The US political class has been pretty clear that they want to start a hot war with China for whatever goddamn :brainworms: reason.

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Looking forward to the world ending due to the hubris of liberals because :good-morning: insisted on going to Taiwan when she could have simply not done that

    But since the US has to assert itself as THE geopolitical power, and since events in the past few years have left the state apparatus 'embarrassed', we're not going to divert now and will instead continue to be belligerent assholes and have an 82 year old blight on society make an appearance in a country that doesn't really want her or care about her

    Another fun fact: Biden climate pledge: 2.3 billion

    Annual estimated cost to operate ONE aircraft carrier: 2.1 billion

    Ed: Bonus in that BBC article:

    Ahead of the Glasgow climate conference, Mr Biden promised the US would provide $11.4bn a year in climate finance by 2024 - to help developing countries tackle and prepare for climate change. But in March he managed to secure just $1bn of that from Congress - only a third more than the Trump-era spending.

    :agony-limitless:

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Non event. As I already stated before Mike Pompeo has already arrived and he's a magnitude worse than Nancy Pelosi.

        • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          https://apnews.com/article/china-taiwan-mike-pompeo-tsai-ing-wen-joint-chiefs-of-staff-ef5f97eb86d61a011576e09523295ca2

          "is to arrive on Wednesday". This whole thing is a grift btw. That fucker was paid 150k. This is all about paying protection money to the US.

  • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Zelensky was asking for nukes. Not comparable. Not the worst article though. As they did use the phrase red line.

    • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Hope Nancy convinces the entire Democratic Congress to tag along and they all get arrested en masse and sent to work in the fields

  • pppp1000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    As many have pointed out that it's probably for the chips thing but the irony of the matter is China has rolled out with 7nm chip despite the US doing its best to prevent China from doing it while Intel have delayed the launch of their 7nm chip for the 3rd year running.

    • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I can't imagine it's actually chip related because I feel like we would have heard about it. For many people it's a fair and legitimate justification to visit the island. I think its meeting with military or something

  • ajouter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    We'll know it's kicking off when someone blows up TSMC

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      No way they wouldn't make preserving that a priority. That's like saying you'll know the Vikings attacked because they melted down all the gold and threw it in the ocean.