• redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    the insulin price thing is no joke one of the easiest ways to make a foreigner quickly grasp how fucked the american healthcare stuff is, it is like staring directly at an eldritch truth for us, the fight or flight response just kicks in instantly

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RESEARCH COSTERINOS :wojak-nooo:

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        this is fair we can't stop the research for Insulin 2: the sequel now or we will be so mad in the future when we need it

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've gotten that argument so many times, both on :reddit-logo: and offline, from corporate bootlickers. "It's not about the insulin! It's about the research into new drugerinos that will be GAME CHANGERS (they love that term)."

          My usual argument back is that those GAME CHANGERS will be even more out of reach than insulin is because the same pharma ghouls will be deciding the price.

          The usual response to that is some version of "STOP BEING POOR." :so-true:

          • redthebaron [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            the man who invented it said "it seems fucked to not give this to everybody who needs it" and people are profiting out of it years after his death, it is such an insane thing like brazil literally gives it to you through our state healthcare, and we ARE LITERALLY A MESS, THIS COUNTRY IS FUCKED AND WE DO IT

            it is really is just the we LOVE OUR BIG PHARMA WE LOVE WHEN PEOPLE DIE FOR THE MOST BANAL OF REASONS mindset from the US making this possible kind of an insane behaviour

            • DarthSickleus [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              It wasn't even invented by an American and it was invented in a Canadian University lol. How can anyone have a copyright?

              • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Iirc it’s a copyright on either an improved process or an improved variation of the original manufactured insulin. I’ve heard some say that the “cheap stuff” doesn’t work as well as the expensive stuff. I haven’t looked into it very deep but iirc the super basic insulin, ie the one under the original open anti-patent is typically pretty cheap but it’s overall less effective or not as long lasting.

                I’d love for a diabetic Comrade to step in and explain this better.

          • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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            2 years ago

            How much you wanna bet that the same people who tell you innovation can only happen at the cost of enormous human suffering also think capitalism is the most efficient economic system for serving the public good. They actually believe that this is the best we can do.

            edit: Or, more accurately, they don't really think clearly about what an alternative to capitalism would mean

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Almost every "capitalism invented the thing" was actually some publicly funded research project that :porky-happy: started slapping corporate logos over.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              It's still a fucked up way to distort someone's name.

              It'd be like if I made a new kind of septic tank pump and called it The Zucc. Except that'd be funny and good.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is there any argument officially made at all by these ghouls for why an extremely cheap to make product that people will literally die without should not have a price cap?

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      We need market freedom to encourage innovation! :porky-happy:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        end the prosperity of human civilization as we know it

        At this rate, what's the downside? :doomer:

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      By "price cap" we of course mean "be completely free to everyone"

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Oh thank god, I thought the parlimentarian had been taken out of the villain rotation :sicko-wholesome:

  • AmericaDelendeEst [any]
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    2 years ago

    Has the parliamentarian ever been relevant in the history of the U.S. before this administration decided to use it as a scapegoat

  • raven [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    They would easily take some wind out of the left's sails pushing for M4A by capping insulin prices, that being the tip of the iceberg when it comes to medical price gouging, but even that small thing they won't do.

    • KasDapital [any]
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      2 years ago

      Tag yourself I'm the diabetic.

      Also even if this passed it doesn't do anything. It sets a $35 cap if you have insurance. If you don't it's still $300 a vial. If you have insurance and haven't reached your deductible by the end of the year the cost goes back to $300. You need to pay back the difference. It basically just locks in current pharma profits in perpetuity.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    An hour ago...

    FINAL reconciliation bill text is out: $35 insulin cap is in bill and may be challenged. $4B in drought relief is also in

    Tweet

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      $4B in drought relief

      Which rich hogs are going to gorge on that trough? :porky-happy:

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The "working class" farmers with 2000 acres and 40 employees.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Trump did something kind of amazing. If the grifting, graft, and corruption are happening right out in the open - Americans are prone to disabling their critical thinking skills. It becomes part of the system. It's simply the way things are.

        Yesterday, Biden did a performative kabuki thing - Biden signs bills tackling Covid relief fraud into law. He could have signed such bills right away after his inauguration in early February last fucking year.

        The drought relief will surely be a similar scandal because there won't be any effort at all to track the money. There never is. It's like enormous plastic wrapped pallets of $100 bills that will sent to Iraq to "stabilize" the country after Dubya-Cheney started their war. A lot of it went missing. Oops.

        And just before the elections in 2024 - it'll be like clockwork when the dems are "surprised" by how much criminality was involved with drought relief monies. Who could have predicted it!

        The song remains the same.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Like why the fuck is there a golf course just sitting isolated in the desert?

          :cap-think:

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Wait so, does it mean that if one day the senators be like "lol parliamentarian? whomst?", every bill in the Senate can be considered a budget reconciliation bill and thus filibuster proof?

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    God it's fucked up that so many people think capitalism isn't just okay, but will rabidly tear into anybody who thinks it's anything but the best and most desirable system

    Capitalism deadens the heart and erodes the soul