It’s real: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billintroduced/House/pdf/2022-HIB-6454.pdf

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Kids have no gender identity and also I will force my kids to have a specific gender identity.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I mean they're being disingenuous. They're going to ban transitioning when you're an adult, too.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        2 years ago

        Barely even a prediction, given that Florida used handwringing over children to ban transitioning for adults on Medicaid

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            2 years ago

            FWIW this isn't final yet, they're still pushing it through. And also, it's not legislation, it's an executive order to change the way transition is classified.

            That last part is actually worse IMO

    • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I still hold that kids don’t have any sort of identity until they are 11-13 or so. At least I didn’t. Complete sponge without a single opinion or position of my own

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I've heard from a lot of people that they knew their gender identity by the time they were like six. Obviously not everyone, but it happens. Same thing with knowing if you're gay or not, a lot of kids figure out who they're attracted to well before puberty.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I figured things out regarding my identity and what I was attracted to before I knew how my body worked. I think I was... 5?

          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, I think I was like 7 when I had my first crush, on one of my sisters friends who was like 19 at the time.

            Obviously nothing sexual about it at all at that age, I just knew she was the best thing ever lol

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I had naughty ideas about my crushes pretty much as soon as I had crushes. I didn't know how sex worked, at all, but I thought they were neat all over and wanted to see more of them, touch being a bonus to imagine.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I had an inkling of an idea I was trans before I was 11 but it didn't matter at all to me until puberty started then I turned into a suicidal zombie

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, I was pretty clear who I was attracted to by then. Just wanted to be around the girl in my class who always wore the pretty purple bow all the time.

  • LeninsWorldTour [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    One of the bill's sponsors said it's "insane" that kids can have a gender identity 'when it is illegal for them to have sex."

    :mao-wtf:

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Yes, high schoolers in the US famously do not have sex with each other because it would break the law, somehow.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I mean these people want to make sex outside of marriage illegal, too.

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        2 years ago

        I know Atwood is a libbity lib who erases POC from her books, but these people really read the handmaid's tale and thought it was meant to be inspirational

    • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      Seriously. Join local orgs and also get armed now. By the time they have death squads, it’s too late.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Our enemies are ontologically evil :bateman-ontological:

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I'm so glad that America combines puritan sexual mores with the idea that all bodies are objectified commodities. It has had nothing but positive outcomes

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      Expect then to be sent to conversion camps and euthanized if they don't pretend to have been "cured"

  • FuckItNewName [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    it’s “insane” that kids can have a gender identity

    I know, right. Kids usually have several that they play with. Only one is so limiting for a child’s development. Glad to see the Republicans are abolishing gender, folks. You heard it here first.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's almost no amount of horrible acts of cruelty that can't be mitigated in the mind of the average rando if the words "cut red tape" "lower taxes" and "create jobs" are chanted enough.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah don't bet on that. Go get strapped. Or get your passport in order and get out of here.

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Sadly, this is considered a "fringe" issue for most people who will decide who has control of congress.

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    2 years ago

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    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's not really anything stopping cranks from introducing doomed legislation, whatever state it is

    • uSSRI [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's infested with chuds all throughout the periphery and in all of the economic power. It's the state that brought you Eric prince and Betsy devos. It has its moments where the people support good things but the legislature strikes it down. It's fucked.