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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    Stop making subreddits using the same usernames you used on /r/cth.

    Also, don't make new usernames and use them on the browser you used for your old username. Reddit associates them using the user-agent and some other metrics.

    Probably don't use the same IP either.

    Switch browsers or spoof your user-agent.

    All previous chapo users are basically shadowbanned from making any new subreddits regardless of whether they're relevant to cth or not. I discovered this when I made /r/groverfurr which is obviously an author subreddit and not a ban evasion sub. It was banned in just a few hours.

    Anyway, the above measures result in you being able to make new user accounts if you're permabanned and keep getting new accounts auto-banned daily so I assume they de-associate you from whatever automated system reddit has in place for associating users to prevent chapos from making new subreddits.

    • Jorick [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      So much for that marketplace of ideas lmao.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      If this is true, the big brain move is for Chapo posters to squat rightoid sub names whenever there's a new Shabeepo project or whatever to pre-emptively ban them.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Good idea. They're probably doing this for former T_D users too though. I would guess all the hate-sub users are being treated the same and we were taken out in the hate subreddit wave.

        • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Hahahaha, imagine the Reddit admins treating right-wing and left-wing posters the same way.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      None of that matters they just want to erase any left presence on the site to make donors/advertisers/whoever happy

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        No there's more to it than that. The issue isn't left-presence. It's left-presence that creates any effective political funnel from liberal to leftist.

        They're pretending to tolerate all the other spaces because none of them are lib-converters like CTH was when it was blasting off. MTC got the chop too because it was acting as a funnel from CTH into ML. Lib > CTH > MTC was the full pipeline that they killed.

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Is it possible to change my browser fingerprint by reinstalling it and changing up some of the settings or something? Or am I no longer able to use reddit on chrome altogether. I noticed a while back my accounts can no longer vote on reddit, I had to switch to firefox in order to make an account that could vote.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        I believe that using a user-agent switcher should disassociate your browser, at least within reddit's automated "these users are the same person" system. You can get a chrome extension to do that. I don't believe reddit is doing extensive browser-fingerprinting beyond this as they would face considerable backlash by privacy nerds on the site for doing so.

        Obviously don't use the old account while using the account that uses a spoofed user-agent.

        Now, this might not stand up to a manual review if they have other factors they track too, but my experience has been that it does get passed their automated system which is likely what people are losing subreddits for. Admins aren't furiously stalking chapochat every second of the day to ban subreddits, it's an automated ban triggered with a timer on it to confuse people and make it harder to figure out why/what triggered it.

        • cosecantphi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Thanks! I'll look into this. I'll probably just delete all my old accounts so I don't accidentally contaminate any new ones. Will be very annoying getting the "Hmm, two week old account, highly suspicious, how's the weather in Russia today, Boris?" response from libs for a while though

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Dessert vs Desert, unless that's intentional.

        Also, r/BadFaithPodcast is the banned one but r/BadFaithPod is private, is that one of y'all/us?

          • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Care to elaborate? Did you already try the correct one and they didn't allow it?

              • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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                Wouldn't want anyone discussing the Highway of Death outside of the Call of Duty subreddit.

                Gonna engage in self harm and see if the "ethics in video games journalism" people ever opined on this particular act of dishonesty.

                Edit why the hell is this formatted like code

                Anyway its as bad as I expected https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/do4ywc/cod_highway_of_death_controversy_look_out_for

                • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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                  Wow that comments section is just as disgusting as I expected it to be.

                  Idon'tknowwhatIexpected.deaddove

                • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Listen fat how do I escape code format

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/do4ywc/cod_highway_of_death_controversy_look_out_for

        • asaharyev [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          PodcastBadFaith is the one we created that got banned.

    • glk [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I imagine they can detect incoming traffic originating from other domains too. If I click a reddit link on here they can see it and flag any account im logged into at that time.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I'm not 100% sure on whether Reddit itself has access to this information. I think their advertisers might do if they're running tracking tools and cookies across multiple sites but I think reddit only has anonymised data for those things. Internal traffic is tracked though so they know when your account visited x thread from y link internally. They have a full picture of internal brigading from subreddits.

        They probably log it as "from external referral source" or paraphrase.

        Could be wrong though. Worth keeping in mind.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Browsers do generally send a "referrer tag" actually telling Google Analytics etc. where the user came from. Privacy settings often block this, but most people probably don't have it blocked.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Reddit associates them using the user-agent and some other metrics.

      I would like to know more.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I don't know the other metrics :') Voting patterns are probably in use checking how often users vote alongside other accounts and building a picture of group-voting. IP addresses will definitely be logged and used as a metric. I think it's safe to assume there's probably more things in use tracking users on phone versions of the site or apps compared to the pc version. Reddit probably also knows exactly where you work.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They can just tell some stuff about your browser, system, and location.

        Because there are so many combinations, (chrome version X, device Y, in town Z, with adblocker A, language B, etc. and many other settings) you have an almost unique fingerprint. They can see that you logged out of one account and into another one, and then those two accounts are forever linked in their system.

  • the_river_cass [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    they apparently threatened /r/socialism with a ban if they didn't remove death to america, so I think they're just on a mission to be rid of the left.

      • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        we defo need some spaces that aren't politics first. I think a lot of people come here, see we only talk about leftism and leave. It would be cool to have communities for sport, games, books, fitness, etc that aren't just discussions of leftism in that topic (obviously with the same no fash, no apologia rules)

      • Jorick [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Wait, it's all fascism ??

        Always has been.

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    Reddit and the rest of the fascist compradors that constitute white labour aristocracy are reading our posts on Chapo.chat and take them very seriously. All of our posts have made them furious.

    What if somebody pointed out that the tech sector was just financial capitalism buying the silence of the “Western Proletariat” (labour aristocracy) by getting those workers to accept huge salaries for new and comfortable tech jobs where they can do nothing productive and get great perks, in exchange for only two blind eyes to fascism? Where did all that surplus money come from - is it because the tech workers were so smart?

    What do those tech workers actually do? We all know the answer. Not much. They can’t. Tech exists to keep the petit-bourgeois striver classes occupied, colonized, and profoundly counter-revolutionary.

    Software is expensive because they need to buy all of our souls. Yes, all of the software, all of the managers, all of the computers - it’s almost like it’s broken and frustrating on purpose. It’s a make work project, at scale.

    The real value came from the blood the tech workers sucked out of all of humanity, which they commodified, quantized and dehumanized. Was it a painless bite, is that how you were able to do it? Why is Bill Gates obsessed with mosquitoes, again?

    The smartphones, the advertising networks, the visual imagery, the social media - all of these technologies were used to further exploit and divide the people, to suck their blood, to turn them into fascists. That’s where the value came from.

    Good job buying quirky desk toys and some cool stickers for the MacBook, you rugged individualists.

    Hope it was worth it now that the planet is destroyed and people are talking about Vampire Maoism.

    As if the labor aristocracy working in tech are innocent! They are among the most guilty. They were bought off. They are damned.

    Fuck you, Reddit. Cascadia belongs to us now.

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The goal is to lose those users permanently, and have them elsewhere. Having us here doesn’t really hurt them, but having us on a new sub does.

        • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Disagree. They want to pump their numbers and cause people to create new accounts but also keep their old accounts active in whatever way that allows reddit to count them as an active user when trying to court investors. That's why they're so lax about users creating accounts to evade bans from a particular subreddit.

          I mod a subreddit. We banned a guy, he tells us in modmail that he'll evade the ban, and even lists three accounts he claims are his alts. I report this to reddit, link them to the message; days later I get their boilerplate message that they "resolved the issue" but the guy's account is still live. Whatever. Few weeks later, he messages us again, "hey did you sus out my alts yet? Still enjoying the subreddit lololol." The process above is repeated and ends in exactly the same way. Now maybe this guy was lying the whole time. But they're very lax about user ban evasion in my opinion based on experience, and it makes sense that they would be, for the numbers-pumping reason I described.

          In conclusion, reddit must be destroyed.

  • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If we want to eventually create a sub for this podcast, let's wait for the podcast to have some clearly identifiable running joke and name the sub after that so it's not obviously an evasion of the BadFaithPodcast sub ban. And it should be made using a new account on a VPN.

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        for posterity [emphasis on poster B) ]

        This is a subreddit for the liberal electoral politics podcast Bad Faith starring Briahna Joy Gray and Dante Tennessee. It also plays host to civil discussion of left-liberal political action that works pragmatically within the system and in no way threatens any existing power structures or averts climate disaster.

  • CyberPoliceUnit1312 [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    I can imagine they have some machine learning shit going on which recognizes (leftist) users, by feeding it the type of subs you're subscribed to, the website you're coming from, the type of content you upvote, click, etc.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I mean, that's probably going on too, but what I've suspected is that we're all flagged as CTH users and whenever reddit detects a subreddit with a critical mass of CTH users and not enough nonCTH users, they mark that subreddit as a ban evasion subreddit.

      Who knows tho.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Did you link to chapo.chat? That's unwise better to allude to it. Also fuck reddit.