Surprise surprise. Seem like peoples in Taipei don’t want to go to war

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The DPP has tried to frame all of the last three elections as "referendums on China" while accusing the KMT of being CPC stooges. It worked to an extent in the national elections of 2020, but that messaging feels tone deaf in local elections like 2018 and these ones; where the party has plenty of scandals relating to its failure to address domestic issues.

    Update: Tsai just resigned as party chair lmao

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Is it just because she criticizes the mainland?

        Yes. And liberals love their moralizing losers

        Just look at how they kept slobbering over Beto

    • jackmarxist [any]
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      2 years ago

      Well they just straight up started pushing for war with China in the past 2-3 years so I guess people had enough with their shit. Apparently wholesome reddit upvotes don't matter in the situation of War and Peace.

      • Redcuban1959 [any]
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        2 years ago

        iirc KMT is pro-peaceful reunification with mainland, but they want taipei to become an autonomous region

        • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          KMT is pro some sort of reunification with mainland, but also there's quite a bit of ethnic tension between KMT and everybody else. There's a gulf between chinese people who colonized Taiwan before RoC and after. The latter group is whats at the head of the army and the former taiwanese dictatorship. It makes sense that calling KMT china stans works in national elections.

          • anoncpc [comrade/them]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            They're both US lapdog, one is crazier than the other and openly want the nationalist Japan to colonize them again.

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          It's fascinating to see how the KMT evolved on that position. Originally in the 50s they had this insane notion that they were going to invade the mainland and be able to take the whole thing over.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It worked to an extent in the national elections of 2020,

      It worked in 2020 because of the Hong Kong protests in 2019, and Tsai Ing-Wen's entire campaign was "we can't turn Taiwan into Hong Kong." Before she could use the riots for opportunist ends, she was unpopular enough despite being the incumbent that she almost got primaried in the DPP primaries.

  • plinky [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Wayne Chiang

    He is thought to be a great-grandson of Chiang Kai-shek, former President of the Republic of China, and the son of John Chiang

    Good thing we do not live in aristocracy huh

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If my grandfather was as corrupt and incompetent as Chiang Kai Shek I wouldn't confirm my relationship to him either.

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      He’s cute though. Under electoralism and its saturated media coverage one might as well just have something (sic) good to look at

      Take me, volcel police

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      For some reason I find it extremely funny that Chiang’s descendants have western names despite living in Taiwan

      • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Fwiw, they have Chinese names as well. John Chiang is Jiǎng Xiàoyán and Wayne is Jiǎng Wàn'ān.

        Secondary English names aren't all that uncommon with Taiwanese people though, from all I've seen. Probably more common than among mainlanders?

        • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I would guess it's more common in Taiwan just becuase of greater exposure to Western media. But it's pretty common for Chinese people who have to interact with Westerners to adopt a western name, just because the vast majority of Westerners cannot pronounce Chinese names so it saves everyone some embarrassment.

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yes, their goal was never to declare independent and more toward peaceful reunification, which is able to get mainland money and ensure stability for investment. While for DPP, they basically run on red scare, to the point that investors got spooked and run away, thus destabilizing the economy.

      • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        This is why Taiwan politics is both brainworm and absolutely fascinating. Many vocal young and aesthetically “progressive” and “socialist” types support DPP cuz they think KMT represents the interest of capital/transnational capital (who wants a cut of China’s growth. These same ones were also clamoring for Trump in 2020.

      • Nakoichi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I just realized I know fuck all about Taiwan politics

      • Nakoichi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        This part is also especially funny

        The KMT has accused Tsai and the DPP of being overly confrontational with China, and of trying to besmirch the party for being "red" - a reference to the colours of the Chinese Communist Party.

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I was really hoping some Taiwanese nationalist :the-doohickey: nancy Pelosi in order to deescalate tensions between china and Taiwan

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    how is chiang kai shek's grandson and the kuomintang the reasonable alternatives, jesus christ

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You have to try really hard to make the KMT an appealing alternative lol

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It only holds as long as the economy is good. When the inequality grows and quality of life drops. Peoples change their tune fast.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      The people in Taiwan already don't want reunification with the PRC. The problem for the DPP is they don't want Taiwanese independence either. What they want is to maintain the status quo.

      • ZillaCummies [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Thing is, if you just say "how is life in china" vs "how is life under the PRC in China", people living in Taiwan jump their opinion by like 30% lmao