In bad country . . .

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Amongst liberals, I've seen so much hatred for homeless people it's insane. In big cities, the #1 complaint is always that unhoused people live there

    everyone probably supports this shit

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      Centrism is a conservative ideology, and homeless people pop the pleasant bubble they want to live in.

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :blob-no-thoughts: Yay, they're finally going to provide free housing and mental health care for the unhoused! :blob-no-thoughts:

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      2 years ago

      Hospitals often cite a shortage of psychiatric beds as the reason for discharging patients, but the mayor said that the city would make sure there were enough beds for people who were removed. He noted that Gov. Kathy Hochul had agreed to add 50 new psychiatric beds. “We are going to find a bed for everyone,” Mr. Adams said.

      It is unclear how many people might be affected by the new policy. The number of homeless people with severe mental illness who are not living in shelters fluctuates seasonally but is, at the very least, in the hundreds. According to the Coalition for the Homeless, an advocacy group, studies have shown that a large majority of unsheltered New Yorkers have mental illness or other severe health problems. An annual estimate that is often criticized as an undercount counted about 3,400 people living in streets and subways in January.

      I'm sure they're really big, really comfy beds, though.

      • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Hospitals are so hopelessly fucked these days that I'm convinced they mean adding 50 literal beds and no staff or resources for the 50 patients

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I'm sure everything will be fine and they will be treated with the utmost care! :blob-no-thoughts:

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        When I was in a psychiatric hospital, they gave us a big foam block with waterproof coating, so we couldn't bean ourselves on the corner or damage them with urine or faeces. No bedframe or anything. Also no locks on any doors including bathroom doors. Also my room mate was really weird.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          You got a bathroom door? I got a bathroom flap of leather that didn’t stay closed right

          Also how fucking insane is the concept of having shared bedrooms in a psych hospital. Whoever the first person to say “Yes, put two beds in this room, patients can share!” should’ve been promptly shot in the head.

          I don’t really think anyone should be forced to share a bedroom with anyone aside from their partner for an extended time, but a mental hospital especially.

          • keepcarrot [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Proper doors in mine. The amount of access patients have to each other is pretty wild. The nurses pretty much only came out at meal times or to cool off altercations, and I saw a psychiatrist once a week (no therapist). The amount of attention each patient needed was way more than that. We just kinda milled about. Someone lent me a 40k book to read, which I didn't enjoy.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Hospitals often cite a shortage of psychiatric beds as the reason for discharging patients, but the mayor said that the city would make sure there were enough beds for people who were removed. He noted that Gov. Kathy Hochul had agreed to add 50 new psychiatric beds. “We are going to find a bed for everyone,” Mr. Adams said.

        :yes-honey-left: "There are not enough beds."

        :porky-happy: "We are going to find a bed for everyone."

        This is why the ruling class is the ruling class! :so-true:

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      More like confined into a hospital room with some form of chemical restraint...

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    New York liberals: not fascists, but 95% support what fascists want. :maybe-later-honey: :maybe-later-kiddo:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        “i just wish someone would kill them all hahahah” and everyone looked away because of how insanely awkward it was. of course he was wearing a star wars shirt

        DAE le Empire did nothing wrong space trains ran on time just don't break the law? :so-true:

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I feel like Disney revised the Empire from being extremely speciesist just to appease this type of fan.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          The greatest sin that the Empire ever committed was blowing up the white suburbs Alderaan.

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

    • Wertheimer [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Hmmmmm. Irregular spacing. Obviously a sign of something untoward. We'd better take you in. It's for your own good. Besides, a tourist might see you and we wouldn't want that.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Love to have the police be the arbiters of "mental health" and lock people up in psychward prisons and be drugged against their will. And you know someone is going to get shot, that's a given.

        • Wertheimer [any]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I just went looking for the existing numbers.

          "People with untreated mental illness are 16 times more likely to be killed during a police encounter than other civilians approached or stopped by law enforcement."

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I sent this to my friend as extra evidence why this is bad and she said “Untreated”

            :galaxy-brain: :matt-jokerfied:

            WHO DO YOU THINK THE COPS WILL BE INTERACTING WITH ITS NOT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR SHIT UNDER CONTROL

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              ...not to mention, are the lives of 'untreated' people worth less? Does she think everyone is always fully treated, or that everyone has the money, time, and facilities/support to get there?

              • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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                2 years ago

                I think her absolutely moronic point was

                “And this will make sure those people get treated so they won’t be untreated people interacting with cops anymore! :so-true: “

  • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Adams and the NY Dems are some of the worst fucking ghouls in this country

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      And they keep losing, to boot. NY will be a red state in my lifetime, simply because the Dems want to serve up half-a-fascism while bemoaning "The Left" for preventing them from going all the way.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Wonderful, now a bunch of nurses are going to be coerced to participate in fucking kidnapping and holding patients... for fucks sake just build housing, how hard is it!?

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      for fucks sake just build housing, how hard is it!?

      The housing already exists.

      There are many times more empty houses in Burgerland, held by banks, than there are people without homes.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        True, but those are speculative housing not fit for the "poors" and never to actually be used as a place for living in (like that fuckin' tall skinny apartment tower that has malfunctioning plumbing).

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          All of them? There's many times more of it out there than there are people without homes. Should we really buy the bank-driven claim that those houses are all totally unfit for purpose? If they all are, why do the banks hold onto them if they're so supposedly worthless? :cap-think:

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Oh I'd live in one of those places compared to being homeless (though their true value is due to land and a place to place money that will appreciate late), but ngl I'd rather we bulldoze the majority of that shit down and build actual proper communal and block dwellings than put people in isolated penthouses in which it's made where you never see another human being.

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      And the NYC DSA is one of the worst chapters. What a shit city

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think part of the problem is that they've found a lot of electrical success, so they're wrapped up in lib shit. I know the Midwest and the west coast have some more communist leaning chapters, I've heard Oakland is good

  • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Okay this and the club q shooting response means the canary in the coal mine has gone off What country is the best bet for a trans person to immigrate to? I'm 3rd gen Irish with family there and am also studying to be an electrician. I want out before Ben Shapiro says it's time to cut the long trees. Edit: I'm actually having a panic attack about this lmao

    • Wertheimer [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      If 3rd-gen means you have a grandparent born in Ireland, you can apply for "citizenship by descent":

      https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/

      • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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        2 years ago

        Grandpa had a tendency to lie in the dark with a provo company (with a comrade on his left and another on his right naturally) and left wanted and illegally to the US so idk if this is still an option because of the sins based behavior of my grandpa.

  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    sooo when are they going to just straight up start sanctuary districts? In time for the bell riots of 2024?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Only question is whether they'll be bused into another county and just deposited on the border or placed directly into the concentration camp system we call state prison.

    • learn3code [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yep. I don't want to be too cynical, but the politicians driving this are not doing it out of any sort of empathy or kindness. They view these people as an aesthetic problem like graffiti that needs to be painted over.

    • Wertheimer [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Mr. Adams said the city would direct hospitals to keep those patients until they are stable and to discharge them only when there is a workable plan in place to connect them to ongoing care.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Chances are they'll be billed tens then hundreds of thousands for their own detainment, just like prisoners already are. :joker-amerikkklap:

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Alternatively, "immediately". Its just an excuse to move people from place A to place B, so folks in place A can feel like "someone is doing something". Dump a dozen homeless people into an ER and wipe your hands, making it someone else's problem. Then, when the ER doesn't know what to do with them, they're kicked out and left to wander a different set of streets.