2 weeks to flatten the curve guys
The Food and Drug Administration said Tuesday that fragments of the bird flu virus had been detected in some samples of pasteurized milk in the U.S.
That’s a key word to leave out of the headline god damn. That would mean pasteurization did its job, whereas the headline implies to me “pasteurization does not kill this virus,” which would be a lot more concerning
According to an FDA study relying on 2016 and 2019 data, 4.4 percent of Americans report consuming raw milk in the past year, although the number has almost certainly grown since then.
- https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/10/the-alt-right-rebrand-of-raw-milk-00145625
Oh cool, great, the fucking idiots are going to kill millions more people by being actual fucking plague rats again
That's a way fucking bigger number than I thought what the hell. You gotta like have a guy for that.
It's akin to telling me 1 in 20 of us have a moonshine guy. Which this board may not be the best sample size for as im sure it skews higher than that
I know both a raw milk lady and a moonshine guy 🤔
not interested in either product, but kinda feeling special now to have this direct access to lethal homemade consumables
It's possible if it's adulterated with just methanol but the cure for methanol is ethanol, so the only real significant cases of this happening were when feds were intentionally poisoning supplies during prohibition
https://slate.com/technology/2010/02/the-little-told-story-of-how-the-u-s-government-poisoned-alcohol-during-prohibition.html
Not saying it doesn't happen but it's rare as hell outside of intention
It’s the first % of moonshine, so if it’s each jar filled sequentially, the first jar can be deadly, though that’s more with fruit based brandy that grain based.
The problem is quantities of ethanol required to fix it will be too high if you had pure methanol in the early batch.
The early stuff apparently tastes like shit anyway though, so unless they’re completely clueless it’s not likely to make it in.
I’ve had homemade moonshine and it’s pretty much tastes likes gasoline even without methanol. I can’t imagine how bad that first bit must be then.
Guys chill the fuck out if it's from a farm that has vaccinated animals and you consume the product fresh (within the same day or so) it should be relatively safe (although you must boil it before drinking)
The danger of raw milk is when you buy from a dodgy farm that doesn't do Malt Fever vaccinations or you keep it for a few days
I used to live in a rural area with a lot of small farms and there was this loophole where you'd pay a company for partial ownership of a cow, and then they'd deliver raw milk to you. This was their way around laws prohibiting the sale of raw milk, since if you own a cow you're allowed to drink the milk raw if you want. So yeah unfortunately there's easy ways to get it if you live near farmers and shit.
I wouldn't recommend having a guy for that, that's not real raw milk.
Milk comes from cows, not guys.
Raw milk is a real rural woo woo thing. Rural culture has its own brand of essential oils weirdos that do shit like this.
In my city one of the “natural” grocery stores sells it. Shouldn’t be fucking legal.
More like 1 in 20 households having a moonshine guy which is probably more like 1 in 100 directly interacting with the moonshine guy.
In my region 1 in 5 have a moonshine guy and about the same have a milk/egg guy.
1 in 20 have more than one of each
Good, I'm sad I'll never get to see an awesome fallout style future, but at least these based Chads are making me feel like we're in a future that's lost the benefits of modern science! Them and the people forgoing vaccines are the closest I'll get to fallout!
Not me sitting here thinking dairy companies are also skimping on the pasteurizing process 👀
Real "The Jungle" hours
If I knew how to gamble on the markets rathe than just watch my 401k dwindle, I imagine puts on milk futures might be worth a punt
this shit is a ticking time bomb. very cool that the lesson my country seems to have taken from covid is that lockdown is bad, and vaccines are scary
They’ve developed language and rhetoric against the COVID vaccines, just wait for the next one
Cow's milk? Well, we're safe then, because it's not like any human would or should drink something meant for baby cows
What you expect the USA to learn from one million dead from covid? lol, lmao
The rulers of America did learn. They learned that Americans are willing to accept mass casualties from a pandemic so long as they could still go out for dinner and movies.
They don't care about dead commoners. Capitalism kills millions of poors all the time, what's a few more?
Ah, I was hoping to go to some open mics and stuff. One of my jam sessions requires a Covid test and that's understandable.
Well, it wouldn't be good to put it simply. Bird flu is an Influenza A virus. It could be a blip on the radar as flu season comes around or, as Wikipedia puts it
A bird-adapted strain of H5N1, called HPAI A(H5N1) for highly pathogenic avian influenza virus of type A of subtype H5N1, is the highly pathogenic causative agent of H5N1 flu, commonly known as avian influenza ("bird flu"). It is enzootic (maintained in the population) in many bird populations, especially in Southeast Asia.
You could end up with a highly pathogenic common cold going around. As I like to think about it, if you're adapted to a different animal, you're not calibrated to survive with humans as a host. If you accidentally manage to survive via mutation, then you could do some real damage instead of the mild illness that lets you prolong how long you're there so you can shed more virus into the environment.
A higher mortality rate than COVID and everyone's immune systems are already a bit fucked due to the deliberate mishandling of COVID.
seems like a pretty unlikely vector for a respiratory virus, isn't it?
Someone already posted the full quote. They found fragments of the virus in the milk, which obvs isn't going infect anyone.
But that still means ⬆️ risk of animal to human infection and the even higher risk of human to human infection.
But that still means ⬆️ risk of animal to human infection and the even higher risk of human to human infection
i think that remains to be seen, 'fragments' might just be what a successful protective measure looks like. do viruses leave 'fragments' after other disinfectant treatments?
Yes, when something causes the virus to burst/lyse, the bits are still gonna be there. The issue is the fragments are even in milk in the first place.
I mean you're putting it in your mouth, the same place you breath out of.
So... heat pasteurizing the milk kills the virus. What if it gets on raw vegetables and fruits?
We're ready to stop another pandemic, right? RIGHT?
