They kept him banned after reviewing the video. Which is wild.

The screenshot is wild too btw. Hasan literally asks them if they're on crack, which, I don't think will help his case lmao.


Interviewer: Black Lives Matter or All Lives Matter?

Black Woman: Black Lives Matter.

White Dude: I guess All Lives Matter.

Hasan, pausing the video: Like, there you go, that's a great way of looking at the extremes on both sides.

One side is saying, black lives matter, and, you know, black lives are a part of all lives, so all lives clearly don't matter until black lives matter. And black lives currently don't matter.

The other side is saying all lives matter and black lives matter too, but you're just wrong for bringing that up.

The extreme in that situation is one side saying, correctly, that black people are disproportionately targeted by the criminal justice system and sometimes even killed as a consequence of that disproportionate targeting and systemic racism.

The other side is denying that reality. On the extreme side, on the other side, they are also taking matters into their own fucking hands.

So, how can you look at that situation and go, "Huh, both sides have some ideas here."

Interviewer, to the White Dude: Why's that?

White Dude: Cuz I feel like my life matters too. And I'm not black.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    I know this is beside the issue but I think it's hilarious that Hasan's editor put subway surfers and satisfying sand next to his political talk to keep the adhd zoomers on TikTok engaged, love it

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    This is a pattern of behaviour.

    TikTok has been actively suppressing left wing content for a while now, we've been experiencing it on projects Hexbear probably isn't that familiar with because they're UK focused. For example Double Down News has had several removals.

    List of some older removals here, it's not complete as newer removals have occurred: https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1584642925962891264

    Their removals have not been broadly liberal targeted, they have been explicitly targeted at socialists like Monbiot, Corbyn, Vijay Prashad, etc.

    Hasan is another in a long line of already existing instances of this on their platform.

    Look at this example and tell me what reason other than intentional repression of socialists this would have for removal.

    • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      This is so wild. I’m glad you brought this up. Tiktok has got to be the worst of the major platforms.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        There's definitely something very suspicious occurring. Even reddit is not this bad to us.

        Every time the algorithm blasts off with something by major socialists on the major projects there's a roughly 30% chance it gets removed. Higher chance if it has a significant anti-imperialist slant to it.

        • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Yeah, this vid apparently got a million views in an hour before it got removed. Since then they’ve banned Hasan and his editor but also fan channels. And rejected his appeal.

          It is really, really sus.

          I remember back when the George Floyd protests were going on, TikTok was the place for a large majority of videos of police brutality. But one day it just suddenly fucking vanished. Nothing new would ever turn up - just days or weeks old footage. At that point I turned to Twitter and Twitch.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It's also really hard to get fash shit banned unless it's like extremely explicit shit like Hitler speeches laced with animated swastikas everywhere or whatever.

        • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          Anyone I know who's on FB and over the age of 30-35 is basically a fascist in waiting. They repeat the dumbest, vilest shit and they don't even know where they got the info.

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    You already know every single lib, American, and Westerner is going to use this example as proof that Tiktok is "a CCP propaganda tool" because "China hates black people and BLM"

    • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      The replies are awesome.

      Half are from conservatives: Tater Tots talking about a Matrix W, fascists demanding he fight Sam Hyde, or just general brainrotted conservatives saying this is communism.

      The other half are his supporters. But among them there are libs who are saying exactly what you were saying: Tiktok are doing this because they are controlled by the CCP and the CCP hates black people.

      So...yeah. That's that.

        • refolde [she/her, any]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Bcuz the Chinese are just inherently more worse than whites when it comes to the racisms, because you see, bad thing in america is actualyl 42069x worse in china, becuz reasons. thats y u should be thankful that uhhh that you live in freedom abd hman rights loving amrerica in not the totaldramaislandtarian country of chyna!!!!

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      The whole idea that TikTok is a Chinese platform is just silly.

      It's an American site/app, ran and maintained by an American company, moderated by an American panel, staffed by the same American software ghouls and former NATO/intelligence officials as other social media sites, that's primarily subject to American legal jurisdiction.

      Yet chuds, and unfortunately some leftists, keep insisting it's meaningfully associated with China in order own each other.

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I'm sure they will but I also remember when a significant portion of this site was singing tiktok's praises because it is a Chinese company and defending it when it was algorithmically suppressing anyone queer or not conventionally attractive.

      Tiktok did this for the same reason as any western company, because they are capitalists who benefit from the maintenance of the status quo. Using any proprietary software is supporting capitalism. Can't have your treats and eat them too.

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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        edit-2
        2 years ago

        I’m sure they will but I also remember when a significant portion of this site was singing tiktok’s praises because it is a Chinese company and defending it when it was algorithmically suppressing anyone queer or not conventionally attractive.

        I don't remember that.

    • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      lmao ok, so you think banning accounts with pro-BLM videos by claiming it is "hateful conduct" is just "streamer drama".

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      TikTok repressing the left isn't just streamer drama we've been dealing with it in the UK for months: https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1584642925962891264

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      You MF's making me agree with LiberalSocialist god fuckin dammit!

      • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
        hexagon
        ·
        2 years ago

        It’s that LOTR meme about that elf and the dwarf working together. (I think. I dunno, I haven’t seen that boomer stuff).

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Whenever someone says "all lives matter," ask them about homeless people or refugees

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      If they cared about their lives, they'd go back to where they came from and fix it up. We can't let refugees and homeless people turn our liberal democratic government into an authoritarian nanny state. That's what they're fleeing from and if we let them take control they're ruin all the wonderful things we have here.

    • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]
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      2 years ago

      i can't tell if being funny or joking, but it's technique to get shit boosted on tiktok. it has an algorithm that hides political content. if you put your politic takes over video games or cooking or whatever, tiktok AI won't hide or suppress it.

        • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]
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          2 years ago

          what do you mean enhance? like make the video more fun to watch? i was reading tiktok activiely suppresses politics shit so you add overlays. this dude apparently been bypassing it for awhile by adding shit https://www.tiktok.com/@woke_karen

  • FlintstoneSpiceLatte [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Hasan gets banned from TikTok.

    The reason people hate velma isn't because of it's godawful storytelling, but because it makes fun of rich white people (but making fun of black people is a-okay).

    Are sheeple too stupid to realize that the "escape the matrix" people ARE the cultural mainstream?

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In their defense he did have some chud on to talk about all lives matter so it is propagating hate speach.

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In their defense he did have some chud on to talk about all lives matter so it is propagating hate speach.

    I realize it is stupid but getting past duck hunting discourse is something we have been needing to do for a while.