Ignore the fact that RT is trying to spin this as a bad thing, bc it is obviously good

Officials in the German capital of Berlin have introduced new rules for public swimming pools and bathing facilities, allowing women to use them topless. The measure was introduced after a successful anti-discrimination complaint was hailed as a step towards creating “equal rights” for all of the city’s residents by a local anti-discrimination ombudsperson.

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They had to throw in the scare quotes to show they disagreed with the woke mind virus that caused this :data-laughing:

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Maybe I just dont know what "sexualize" means but I'm confused by this post. I'm queer and my entire social circle is queer and all of us are attracted to tits? We also, I assume, would all think this measure is good because people being attracted to something doesn't mean it should be covered up. I'm also attracted to eyes but I dont think everyone should have to wear sunglasses.

        idk maybe I just have poo brain here sorry.

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          people being attracted to something doesn’t mean it should be covered up. I’m also attracted to eyes but I dont think everyone should have to wear sunglasses.

          yeah that's what i'm getting at. i love tits as much as anybody, but at the end of the day it's just another body part and there's no need to make such a fuss about it. Some people get super horny over feet, yet you don't see anybody banning sandals in public.

          • Dolores [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            you don’t see anybody banning sandals in public

            not yet :stalin-cig:

        • maya [she/her, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I think you've basically got it you're just a little mixed up with the terminology.

          The sexualization of breasts here (as I understand it) means acting as if they are inherently sexual, i.e. people seeing a topless woman at the pool and throwing a fit over kids seeing it. It's the difference between being attracted to eyes and wanting movies to be rated R for having visible eyes in them.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think the point they were making is that someone just having tits out isn't that sexually arousing for most people attracted to them. The difference between sexual and casual nudity means that a big part of attraction is presentation

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Hell, even if it is arousing (to each their own). I might be titillated, but I have the social composure not to walk up to a complete stranger who's just trying to cool off and be like "Hey! Nice rack!" in the voice of Butthead. Not being a total creep is a low bar most people can pass.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Tits are great but there's sexual and non-sexual contexts. Like how butts can be sexual or funny depending on context.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      RT are a bunch of cranks and always have been.

  • booty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :sicko-yes: desexualization of nudity

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      21 days ago

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  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Now if they could only do something about those lascivious ladies bearing their ankles for everyone to gawk at like a common anklebird

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    BTW this also expressly applies to nonbinary people, not just women. I'm actually surprised the chuds left that part out.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Yes, but they explicitly mentioned that this applies both to women and enbies.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Germany explicitly recognises enby as a third gender in law so it makes sense to clarify that.

          • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            "Third option" was mostly meant for intersex people, but yes, it does include nonbinary identities as well. They're often overlooked, though. Changes to our highly gendered language that would include them are turned into contentious culture war issues, and most enbies have to hide their identities and pretend they're binary trans people if they want to transition because our healthcare system is highly exclusionary to them. I'm glad that Berlin is ahead of the curve in that regard, it's generally the most trans friendly place around here.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hand wringing about boobs at the pool but taking the time to de-gender ombudsman lmao

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Exposure in non-sexual environments is one of the ways you get over the sexualization of nudity.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Men's chests used to be forbidden too, iirc. So desexualizing torso nudity for women too is only fair.

    I say this as a bi dude, and if I can not be a creep around twunks at the pool, I'm sure I can handle myself just fine around any topless woman.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I want to thank the volcel police for keeping our comment section clear of trash.

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That's cool. I know it's legal in my country generally but I never thought to check if that extends to public pools. Seems like it is in some places but seems like it has to be rigorously fought in each individual city because cities run the public schools.