I say unusual in the sense of Japan seems to be the only one to have solved the issue of how do you transport 2 kids on a bike not with "big box" like the dutch and subsequently the entire western world but via 2 seats, they're apparently very popular over there as a means of transportation.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      People don't really need helmets for most bikes that have an upright seating position and operated at a low speed.

      If you're doing some more aggressive riding it's a good idea, but otherwise it's an unnecessary pain.

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        i will ride a bike without a helmet but I do not have two toddlers on that bike with me who are also not strapped into their chairs

        • iridaniotter [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          You should wear a helmet, but mandating then reduces the number of cyclists so much that you're probably causing more harm than good. Kind of whacky 🥴

            • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              we're also not talking about a consenting adult on a bike but like an adult with TWO TODDLERS lol

              not even strapped in! kid on the back could just like stand up because kids are stupid and do shit like that

              I don't even have kids but just from being in proximity to people who do it's just like, wow lol this is unsafe

      • beef_curds [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Bullshit, don't give dangerous advice. I was upright and going at a casual speed and got doored. Completely shattered my helmet, luckily I had one on.

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        brain trauma is... not good, so like, why risk it on a thing that can tip over or launch you off of it in an accident, especfially when you are also risking not just one but two toddlers (one of whom is also like not strapped into the seat, lmao)

                • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  It’s drilled into every child

                  yeah that must means it's a great idea then, otherwise why would we be doing it?

          • THC
            ·
            2 years ago

            Traumatic brain injuries are so cool! I can't remember how to move my legs but at least I won't get the nerd emoji commented at me by cool guys on the internet!!!!!

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'm not the person who was arguing that helmets weren't necessary. I wrote the nerd emoji comment because I thought it was absurd that the debate was even happening and honestly believed that the anti-helmet person was just pulling the other person's leg, now I see that that wasn't the case at all.

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          should children or hell, anyone, wear helmets in cars? They have a horrendous track record of head injuries in case of accident. What about when just walking about. what if you fall

          • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            most people don't fall out of cars onto the pavement in a slight low speed collision

            are you anti seat belt too or something lol what is this shit

            • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah, there's a difference between sitting inside a heavy metal box and balancing on two wheels connected by metal tubes, completely exposed

            • 7bicycles [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Children should wear safety straps in cars, as should adults. Head injuries are mitigated by airbags.

              Lmao, every car comes with specific instructions to make sure that your airbags don't obliterate your child in the event of a crash.

              The average biking speed in an urban environment is 19-26 km/h. Cracking your head on the pavement at that speed can be deadly.

              Boy cars travel much faster than that, why don't we expect everyone to wear helmets in those?

                • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Because they have airbags and straps, as I’ve just written.

                  The airbags are actively detrimental to most children to the point where you're advised to turn them off lest they seriously injure them in a crash. Every car manual since the 1980s has points about this in it. They don't work for children because they're not designed for children. Do you not understand this?

                  Are you anti-helmet?

                  No, I always wear one.