lol how are you gonna be a socdem who's against vanguards when one of the core concepts of social democracy is REPRESENTATIVE parties?
Bruh you can't take a principled stance against vanguardism when your ideology is literally the capitalist liberal version of vanguardism, you got to at least be an anarchist to play that game
You don't know what a vanguard is then, ignorance while understandable in this context, is still not something to be proud of, you should take the time to learn instead of reflexively rejecting something because the capitalist zeitgeist tells you to
Vanguard parties exclude only the supporters of capitalism just like Social democracy by definition excludes socialists and non-capitalists, again you can't have any convincing principled stance against the representative democracy of the working class when you literally stan for the representative democracy of capitalists
No they don't, social democracies would never allow the establishment of socialism and overthrow of the current capitalist mode of production. Social democracy is the attempt by the state to broker, regulate and intermesh the productive capacity of the working class with the capital stock of the investor class for the common benefit of both
By definition those parties cannot be communist, as they legally cannot challenge private ownership of the means of production which underlines that system
Instead of chasing around idealistic "ideas" in your head you should read history and apply a material analysis to it.....sport
lol how are you gonna be a socdem who's against vanguards when one of the core concepts of social democracy is REPRESENTATIVE parties?
Bruh you can't take a principled stance against vanguardism when your ideology is literally the capitalist liberal version of vanguardism, you got to at least be an anarchist to play that game
Vanguardism can never be representative.
I reject it wholly.
You don't know what a vanguard is then, ignorance while understandable in this context, is still not something to be proud of, you should take the time to learn instead of reflexively rejecting something because the capitalist zeitgeist tells you to
Vanguard parties exclude all non-socialists.
They are anti-democratic abortions.
Vanguard parties exclude only the supporters of capitalism just like Social democracy by definition excludes socialists and non-capitalists, again you can't have any convincing principled stance against the representative democracy of the working class when you literally stan for the representative democracy of capitalists
All your doing is revealing your class loyalty
Socialism is not just MLism FFS.
Read a book.
Never claimed it was, but Socialism is definitely NOT social democracy and never will be
Social democracy fully allows communist parties to run in elections.
Try winning the battle of ideas sport.
No they don't, social democracies would never allow the establishment of socialism and overthrow of the current capitalist mode of production. Social democracy is the attempt by the state to broker, regulate and intermesh the productive capacity of the working class with the capital stock of the investor class for the common benefit of both
By definition those parties cannot be communist, as they legally cannot challenge private ownership of the means of production which underlines that system
Instead of chasing around idealistic "ideas" in your head you should read history and apply a material analysis to it.....sport