https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/
what even is this study, did anyone proofread this shit
As additional evidence that tankies’ are indeed supporters of AES countries
ah, the are that belongs to tankies, of course
A Previous study [86] on 2021 Cuban Protests found that r/GenZedong supports Cuban regime while condemning those who oppose it
randomly capitalized "Previous", [the] Cuban Protests, [the] Cuban regime
anyway, some other great bits:
r/sendinthetanks may be more geared towards discussion and debate among its members. This could lead to a lower PageRank score, as it is not as actively linked to or referenced by other subreddits.
damn, they just called us out for not reading theory
It is listed by r/Sino as a subreddit that can be crossposted from, likely indicating a pro-China bias among its members.
you want to be informed about China? Well guess that means you have a pro-China bias, tankie!
we can see that r/democrats is positioned between r/Capitalism, r/progressive, r/SocialDemocracy, r/DemocraticSocialism, and r/Conservative. This may seem odd at first glance, but considering that these ideologies represent current US politics
the US, famed for its many demsoc and socdem parties
Additionally, even though one of the closest subreddits to r/conservatives is r/liberal, they are still relatively distant.
lol. lmao
When we look at the RTPRs, we find that they generally focus more on recent, state-level political events compared to other far-left communities.
news-megathread heads keep on winning, WE LOVE THE NEWS FOLKS
This is further supported by their lower RTPRs for social issues, e.g., police, climate change, healthcare, housing, gun control, unions, and taxes compared to other far-left communities.
or, you know, maybe many tankies just happen to not be fucking American, so your fancy model, likely trained on a predominantly American dataset, can only recognize discussion of "social issues" when it's specifically referencing domestic American politics
tankies mention Stalin nearly twice as often as Lenin
These pairs show that tankies simplify the complexity and diversity of Jewish identity and also the establishment and development of the State of Israel. Furthermore, this usage of Zionism disregards the historical and ongoing discrimination that non-European Jews have faced within Israel
no, you see, me brutally murdering this Palestinian child is actually for very deep and complex reasons
We find that tankies have a higher proportion of shared news outlets from “Revisionist World Powers,” which comprise state-sponsored or statecontrolled outlets from China and Russia ... , these findings may suggest that tankies prefer sources of misleading information compared to other far-left communities
using non-American news sources? um, actually, that's disinformation
Despite the robustness of our methodology
lol, fucking totally robust study here folks
Our dataset also has a notable lack of far-right communities. For example, there is no representation of fascism or alt-right communities.
oh, YOU FUCKING THINK THAT YOUR STUDY OF EXTREMISM MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT AFFECTED BY YOU JUST NOT STUDYING, LIKE, MOST OF IT?!
While the explosion in online extremism has mostly been on the right side of the political spectrum, the overall political leaning of researchers is on the left side of things [87].
damn those leftist professors, it's their fault we're not paying enough attention to the tankie threat! And you know what that fucking [87] citation is? "Pippa Norris. 2021. Cancel culture: Myth or reality? Political Studies"
There was also a citation for our boy
of course. And the citation for Vaush is "Reuters. 2022. Fact check-CNN did not tweet a story about ’the kharkiv kid finder’"
Furthermore, this usage of Zionism disregards the historical and ongoing discrimination that non-European Jews have faced within Israel
tankies mention Stalin nearly twice as often as Lenin
This is actually really funny (although I am not in the least bit surprised)
redsails is not Chinese. Roderic Day is... I'm not sure but I think maybe Peruvian origin who grew up in Canada
The top 1000 domains worldwide were excluded. That's obviously why hexbear didn't make it.
Also, I'm fine with us flying under the radar. High profile means feds and more wreckers, and I have no desire to deal with that nonsense.
lmao i hate these ghouls that conduct and share research on online groups/forums, when they also have a clear disdain and severe misunderstanding of the groups/forums they study
currently skimming through the paper and it's painful
i also can't help but feel like the liberal use of "tankies" was an intentional decision by the authors to drive up the most clicks (and inevitable citations) on this slop
Their working definition of tankies.
“Tankies regard past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China etc.”
is it not painfully vague, almost to the point that it is practically meaningless at differentiating some leftists (or leftist forums) from others?
edit: more thoughts:
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calling your paper "data-driven" isn't an excuse to approach your research project with like zero theoretical (or nuanced) knowledge about (but a strong negative bias towards) the groups in your study
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the paper was getting cool-ish until they started interpreting the results of their "Misalignment Analysis"... This section is very cringe (re: "Acceptance of CCP Narratives", allegations of anti-Semitism, and preference state-sponsored media (but only the bad kind (not american) state sponsored media). The sections before this, where the paper was more predominantly data-driven, seemed actually OK.
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the toxicity analysis seems dumb as fuck because it doesn't account for all the ruiners that come in to pick fights and get banned immediately. Like when lemmygrad.ml was growing its user base, the authors suggest that the "tankies" were at their most toxic, but I suspect that spike in toxicity was driven by new users picking fights and reactions from older users to these newers...
my new favourite part of the paper:
Our dataset also has a notable lack of far-right communities. For example, there is no representation of fascism or alt-right communities
BASED scholar DEBUNKS horseshoe theory and SILENCES all red-fash allegations
is it not painfully vague, almost to the point that it is practically meaningless at differentiating some leftists (or leftist forums) from others?
It includes literally everyone that has ever called themselves an actual socialist.
The only people not included in this fuckery are the people saying they're socialists when what they mean is the nordic model. There aren't any people waving the red flag who do not agree that the ussr and china were legitimate attempts at some point or another. There's literally nobody that matters who would say that these revolutions and the subsequent attempts were attempts at communism. They may disagree at which point their failed or veered off course but they'll all agree they were legitimate attempts.
This functionally puts literally all socialists under the "tankie" banner.
This functionally puts literally all socialists under the "tankie" banner.
Yup. This reminds me of discussions from a few weeks ago about how liberals are beginning to use "tankie" like how conservatives have been using "woke" ... they've jumped on this new label that they can easily slap onto something they don't like or understand, so that they can protect themselves from having to engage in good faith with anyone to their left or reflect on their own ideas
I suspect they don't consider linking to the BBC to be indicative of a bias towards state-sponsored media either
Well of course, that's because state-sponsored media in Western nations has no vested interests!
I'm also thinking of all the neoconservative or openly fascist propaganda shared by privately owned outlets like Washington Post or Time Magazine that would get a pass, because - according to their logic - it's news sponsored by spooky second/third world governments that deserves the criticism for being biased and misleading...
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OP, by sharing this link did you just make this article into another URL/domain shared by tankies?
this is where poorly defined terms get you, kids do not be like these people, do not define your terms poorly.
SAO loving weeblet, I already think he's fucking sus just by recognizing that sword
You're probably thinking of one of Ichigo's swords, but those are mostly curved, one-edged, and substantially bulkier.
And Bleach had issues, but is basically communist propaganda compared to SAO.
kinda respect doing that sword pose as a cyberbullying researcher. bring them into your data-lair with such easy bait...
Foreignpolicy.com is left-wing alternative media? I don't read it (or any liberal rag
) but I've thought of it as being in the NYT cluster, which I occasionally hate read articles from to find out what the liberals are up to these days.
there's a bit of a Financial Times/WSJ thing going on here, where Foreign Policy tries to actually reflect some notion of reality for a decision-making audience. here's a couple articles that you wouldn't expect to see in bourgeois media:
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The Littlest Boy about USA stationing backpack nuclear weapons in Europe after WWII as part of a stay-behind Gladio type shit: https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/01/30/the-littlest-boy/ oh whoops haha that just loads an emtpy masthead now, CURIOUS. but here's the archive of it: https://archive.li/8tvhv
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The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan. Stalin Did. Have 70 years of nuclear policy been based on a lie? https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/
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Foreign Policy occasionally will publish geopolitical 'realists' that align with the Kissinger model, most of whom come from the Neo-con method of geo-political analysis, which is heavily influenced by Trotskyist thinking, which itself is heavily influenced by Marxist-Leninism. In essence, occasionally we come to agreement on the way things are/were but we disagree if they were bad/good and how the American empire should proceed with that shared understanding of those historical ideas.
Damn, not being included is legit slightly embarrassing
in 3 years I will use this paper to attack the legitimacy of social sciences in general.
Being a left-wing right-wing extremist is when you say "Isntreal" and cite your facts
this usage of Zionism disregards the historical and ongoing discrimination that non-European Jews have faced within Israel
Literally how?? I have almost exclusively seen this fact pointed out by leftists, and pretty much never liberals