A three-star Air Force general said the U.S. military’s approach to artificial intelligence is more ethical than adversaries’ because it is a “Judeo-Christian society,” an assessment that drew scrutiny from experts who say people from a wide range of religious and ethical traditions can work to resolve the dilemmas AI poses. Lt. Gen. Richard G. Moore Jr. made the comment at a Hudson Institute event Thursday while answering a question about how the Pentagon views autonomous warfare. The Department of Defense has been discussing AI ethics at its highest levels, said Moore, who is the Air Force’s deputy chief of staff for plans and programs. “Regardless of what your beliefs are, our society is a Judeo-Christian society, and we have a moral compass. Not everybody does,” Moore said. “And there are those that are willing to go for the ends regardless of what means have to be employed.”

The future of AI in war depends on “who plays by the rules of warfare and who doesn’t. There are societies that have a very different foundation than ours,” he said, without naming any specific countries. The Department of Defense has a religious liberty policy, recognizing that service members “have the right to observe the tenets of their religion, or to observe no religion at all.” The policy broadly allows personnel to express their sincerely held beliefs so long as those actions do not have “an adverse impact on military readiness, unit cohesion, good order and discipline, or health and safety.”

Moore wrote in an emailed statement to The Washington Post that while AI ethics may not be the United States’s sole province, its adversaries are unlikely to act on the same values.

“The foundation of my comments was to explain that the Air Force is not going to allow AI to take actions, nor are we going to take actions on information provided by AI unless we can ensure that the information is in accordance with our values,” Moore wrote. “While this may not be unique to our society, it is not anticipated to be the position of any potential adversary.”

Moore’s comments come as U.S. government officials say they’re working on guidelines for the use of AI in warfare. The State Department issued a declaration on “responsible military use of artificial intelligence and autonomy” in February. The Defense Department adopted standards for the ethical use of AI in 2020. The ethical issues AI raises, including in war, are common to multiple religious and philosophical traditions, said Alex John London, a professor of ethics and computational technologies at Carnegie Mellon University. “There’s a lot of work in the ethics space that’s not tied to any religious perspective, that focuses on the importance of valuing human welfare, human autonomy, having social systems that are just and fair,” he said. “The concerns reflected in AI ethics are broader than any single tradition.”

Moore didn’t say whom he was referring to when speaking about U.S. adversaries, but much of the U.S. defense industry has focused on China’s burgeoning AI sector. Technology experts told a House Armed Services subcommittee this month the United States risks falling behind China if it doesn’t invest more quickly in military AI.

The Chinese military’s approach to AI ethics is “different in its roots” than that of the United States, but still mindful of ethical dilemmas, said Mark Metcalf, a lecturer at the University of Virginia and retired U.S. naval officer. Comparing the United States’ and China’s ethics policies is “like apples and oranges” because their history differs, Metcalf added.

Ethics texts in the United States draw from thinkers like Augustine of Hippo, Metcalf said, calling it “a very theistic point of view.” Chinese officials reference “Marxism and Leninism, and the [Communist Party] guides what the ethics is,” he added.

That doesn’t mean China ignores ethical dilemmas when thinking about military AI, though. China’s People’s Liberation Army wants to use the technology without undercutting Communist Party control, Metcalf wrote in a paper analyzing publicly available statements on China’s approach to military uses of AI. Political goals appear to guide its policies, he said.

“Once you turn over control of a weapons system to an algorithm, worst case, then the party loses control” over it, Metcalf said.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    you see the angloid skull shape shows that gods chosen people, the saxons, are meant to build and design AI in the most altruistic way. the chinese using it to build megadams in 2-4 years? dont look over there

    • happybadger [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      We're unlike those Asians that we used atomic weapons against in the only nuclear attacks in history. We value human life unlike those civilians we vaporised. Their skulls are cheems dog while ours are chad dog.

  • mkultrawide [any]
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    1 year ago

    Completely unsurprising that a chair force general said this. Colorado Springs breeds em different.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    The children of Yemen blown to pieces are well acquainted with these Judeo-Christian values

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Moore wrote in an emailed statement to The Washington Post that while AI ethics may not be the United States’s sole province, its adversaries are unlikely to act on the same values.

    The Chinese military’s approach to AI ethics is “different in its roots” than that of the United States, but still mindful of ethical dilemmas, said Mark Metcalf, a lecturer at the University of Virginia and retired U.S. naval officer. Comparing the United States’ and China’s ethics policies is “like apples and oranges” because their history differs, Metcalf added.

    i like how both of these are technically correct, just not in the way these fucking chuds imagine

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      The language seems to imply a motivation to escalate hostility with China's armed forces, solely based on the assumption that they're building a Big Evil Skynet.

      Like, follow this line of thinking to its logical conclusion and we're advocating a preemptive strike on the theoretical grounds that China AI will become an existential threat any day now.

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        In this modern rotting era, it would make sense for the very real threat of nuclear weapons to be supplanted by a very fictitious threat of Skynet.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It’s self-evident that the trucks seen in these satellite photos outside a military base near Nanping contain the Chinese AI programmed to invade the US

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    "We fed it the book of Joshua so we're confident it'll have an ethical approach to war."

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      American military digital leadership assigning every army captain a shofar and ordering them to march tightly around the enemy fortification seven times.

  • Bobby_DROP_TABLES [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "We're training an LLM on /pol/ posts and transcripts of megachurch sermons so we can let it make all our decisions for us like the magic conch"

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    China’s People’s Liberation Army wants to use the technology without undercutting Communist Party control

    On the other hand, in Burgerland, porky-happy wants "friendly" AI that will fuck everyone else over but the ruling class and that's wholesome and religiously kosher.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      New Freedom AI collars will be placed on the necks of all American workers, in order to give them the benefit of instant informative market-driven shock technologies. This will be used to counter the insidious Chinese Social Credit Score technology that rations out food and medicine to defectors and insurgents who have had their minds corrupted by illegal Chinese Facebook ad propaganda.

    • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Took them a year to teach them that it was different from "ethnic" and for them to instinctively start shooting the computer screen

  • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Tell me you never read the bible without telling me.

    Tell me you Know nothing about European history without telling me.

    Tell me you have no clue what ethics are without telling me.

    The US military is a failson factory.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Tell me they know what "Leninism" is any better than up-yours-woke-moralists

      I assume these military blowhards think that Chinese rivals wake up every morning, offer a blood sacrifice to Marx, Lenin, and Mao, then pledge their damned souls anew each day to destroying freedom and democracy. freedom-and-democracy

      • ImOnADiet
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        1 year ago

        that's what I do, I bet upper echelons of the ChiCom Elite do even worse things as the main agents of Satan out to destroy Chrisitanity and the rest of the Freetm World, I bet they snort the blood of Fetuses for not only breakfast, but also lucnh and dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        I assume these military blowhards think that Chinese rivals wake up every morning, offer a blood sacrifice to Marx, Lenin, and Mao, then pledge their damned souls anew each day to destroying freedom and democracy

        Just change those names and we got their own morning activities, considering it's always projection with reactionaires

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    an assessment that drew scrutiny from experts who say people from a wide range of religious and ethical traditions can work to resolve the dilemmas AI poses.

    amerikkka-clap 'Ummm, akshewally sweaty, we can bring all religions together to program our new god to advise us on how to best kill poor brown people!' amerikkka-clap

    Peak liberalism right there.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Isn't that the religion where their god sends people to be tortured for eternity, and they insist that he's the embodiment of good?

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      That's the religion where the police are justified in raiding a food not bombs and pouring bleach on all the food intended to feed the hungry poor so AI is going to absolutely save mankind so-true

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    1 year ago

    Judeo Christian values of killing brown people and expanding military for oil.

    Also lets make the AI emulate God in bible cant wait for cities to be nuked just because theres gay people innit.

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Honestly, I put this one down in the bloomer column.

      This year it has come to light that after uncountable (literally) trillions have been poured down the black hole of the Mic the US does not have the productive capacity to keep up with artillery ammunition use in a proxy war. A high intensity one, for sure, but still a very limited campaign.

      And then one of their King hogs comes out to brag how their Bazinga tech is based and Christ-pilled ron-soy

      Don't get me wrong, this is absolute Nazi shit, but like, in the best possible way. They're still looking for a wunderwaffe and have learned shit all from history.

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Actually the more I think about it, this isn't even a wunderwaffe kind of stupid.

        This has more pulling 3 brigades from the eastern front to go look for magic scrolls in the desert type energy.