Even then, trying to get them to realise their dream doomstack army is literally impossible is hard. They have no idea just how much surplus value it takes to make a single mounted knight (a lot, horses are expensive). Or how extended a war a medieval economy can take. They've got no knowledge of how the baggage train works and women's role in keeping an army functioning, let alone where all the wood for their pretty longbows are going to come from or the cloth for their clothes.
They have no idea on transport logistics, or why a Gambeson is a more effective armor piece than full plate in most cases.
It's all, I'll just march through the desert with 20,000 men in full plate and no baggage train and besiege this castle.
one of the best things about chainmail was that it was cheap and easy to mass produce by comparison to other options
not that that meant some rando serf could "afford" one, but it being a cheap easy to manufacture and extremely effect option definitely makes it the top tier
some people would probably pillory me for it cause chuds love that game, but its got a good combat and armour system, and the female love interest literally saves the main characters life in the intro section of the game, so it at least tried
hell yeah, an rpg tolkien universe game that wasnt rpg-lite is sorely missing
edit: honestly the specs required for kcd arnt too bad. its a few years old now, and i was able to run it on my comp that was a couple years old back when it first came out
stanning a game thats about getting revenge for the murder of a loving family with an adoptive father, where the main character bumbles around and wouldve been dead in the first five days if not for a woman being a badass... to own the libs?
I’d love a fantasy role playing game that incorporates a robust armor system that allows you to mix together different pieces of accurate medieval armor, like gambeson under chainmail or chainmail under a tunic.
There's a weird experimental game called Exanima, which currently just has a dungeon crawler mode and an arena fighter mode, but it does this extremely well. Many many layers of armor and they all affect how you are damaged based on the physics of the weapon and how it is swung.
Downside is that no one moves like a trained fighter, they look like random peasants who are very drunk have been given weapons and armor.
why a Gambeson is a more effective armor piece than full plate in most cases.
That's not really fair. Gambesons are overall more efficient, by far, but full plate is definitely better armor. Like almost inconceivably better. Like, a dude walking at you in full plate armor before guns were invented is basically like a tank in our modern era. There is nothing you can reasonably do to hurt that person unless you're also wearing full plate armor, at which point the game becomes about who comes out of the awkward clunky wrestling match on top.
Of course, that's because full plate armor is an incredibly specialized suit made specifically for one person by a man with decades of practice using very expensive material and hours upon hours of labor. It, of course, can't be given to very many people, and is very unsuited for various environments. But it's still the best protection you can get in the medieval era.
Yes, it's far better, in dry weather, when you have mounts or don't have to travel far at risk of attack. I'd probably say the Brigandine is probably the best all-rounder armor. But if you need 10,000 men fast, you're going to struggle even with mail outfitting
As for invulnerable, well "Haha Billhook goes yoink!" as James IV found out.
B.C. -> A.D. -> Roman Empire -> Dark Ages -> Renaissance -> 0 B.A. (Before America) -> World War II -> "Welcome to two-thousand-and-current-year, the end of history"
Sorry, wasn't that clear but the year 0 B.A. was supposed to be a stand-in for the founding of the U.S. and all the civil religion bullshit that goes along with it. Maybe the B.A. bit was too abstract of a punchline there shrugs
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Even then, trying to get them to realise their dream doomstack army is literally impossible is hard. They have no idea just how much surplus value it takes to make a single mounted knight (a lot, horses are expensive). Or how extended a war a medieval economy can take. They've got no knowledge of how the baggage train works and women's role in keeping an army functioning, let alone where all the wood for their pretty longbows are going to come from or the cloth for their clothes.
They have no idea on transport logistics, or why a Gambeson is a more effective armor piece than full plate in most cases.
It's all, I'll just march through the desert with 20,000 men in full plate and no baggage train and besiege this castle.
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mail is the best armour, with lamellar coming in a distant second, and i will not budge from this
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one of the best things about chainmail was that it was cheap and easy to mass produce by comparison to other options
not that that meant some rando serf could "afford" one, but it being a cheap easy to manufacture and extremely effect option definitely makes it the top tier
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coughs in kingdom come deliverance
some people would probably pillory me for it cause chuds love that game, but its got a good combat and armour system, and the female love interest literally saves the main characters life in the intro section of the game, so it at least tried
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hell yeah, an rpg tolkien universe game that wasnt rpg-lite is sorely missing
edit: honestly the specs required for kcd arnt too bad. its a few years old now, and i was able to run it on my comp that was a couple years old back when it first came out
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fallout 4 def is more requirement intensive than kcd on my system. obviously thats subject to your rigs parts, but...
ill look into those! i like me some meaty roguelikes/lites
playing Hades which just came out at the moment and loving it for all the greek pantheon shenanigans so far
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nice.
caves of qud is a great ascii roguelike along those lines that came out recently, so im not at all opposed to games that are like that
your dad is a "cuck" too.
lol.
stanning a game thats about getting revenge for the murder of a loving family with an adoptive father, where the main character bumbles around and wouldve been dead in the first five days if not for a woman being a badass... to own the libs?
shits wild.
There's a weird experimental game called Exanima, which currently just has a dungeon crawler mode and an arena fighter mode, but it does this extremely well. Many many layers of armor and they all affect how you are damaged based on the physics of the weapon and how it is swung.
Downside is that no one moves like a trained fighter, they look like random peasants who are very drunk have been given weapons and armor.
But it's still interesting.
if chuds understood anything about reality they wouldn't be chuds
That's not really fair. Gambesons are overall more efficient, by far, but full plate is definitely better armor. Like almost inconceivably better. Like, a dude walking at you in full plate armor before guns were invented is basically like a tank in our modern era. There is nothing you can reasonably do to hurt that person unless you're also wearing full plate armor, at which point the game becomes about who comes out of the awkward clunky wrestling match on top.
Of course, that's because full plate armor is an incredibly specialized suit made specifically for one person by a man with decades of practice using very expensive material and hours upon hours of labor. It, of course, can't be given to very many people, and is very unsuited for various environments. But it's still the best protection you can get in the medieval era.
Yes, it's far better, in dry weather, when you have mounts or don't have to travel far at risk of attack. I'd probably say the Brigandine is probably the best all-rounder armor. But if you need 10,000 men fast, you're going to struggle even with mail outfitting
As for invulnerable, well "Haha Billhook goes yoink!" as James IV found out.
Military history is like 75% of all history that is taught in US schools.
History class in the U.S. goes like this
B.C. -> A.D. -> Roman Empire -> Dark Ages -> Renaissance -> 0 B.A. (Before America) -> World War II -> "Welcome to two-thousand-and-current-year, the end of history"
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yeah me too. for us history was the revolutionary war, civil war, repeat for six years.
Sorry, wasn't that clear but the year 0 B.A. was supposed to be a stand-in for the founding of the U.S. and all the civil religion bullshit that goes along with it. Maybe the B.A. bit was too abstract of a punchline there shrugs
I suspect it's like that in most places. Focusing on who was in power and war was how I was taught history in school in Russia.
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