As a transwoman, I understand that feeling of acceptedness within the Chapo community and I can imagine the feeling of betrayal that they must be feeling. I joined about a year ago at one of the lowest and most pivotal points of my life and the community has helped me to grow as a person and to really turn my life around for the better. I'm personally trying my best to provide the same safe and protecting community for trans and non-binary people here that I saw in the subreddit that allowed me to blossom so heavily. However, a blank slate means you let go of the things that happened in the past and we all move forward on this new platform, where I have taken steps to ensure that trans people are more protected so situations like this do not arise. Spamming the Lemmy does not constitute a move forward.

Marie stated in one comment that, "I was, unfortunately, misgendered by someone on the discord (and had been multiple times by that point) and so I expressed my feelings that not enough was being done to protect trans comrades." If they looked at the trans and non-binary dedicated community, they would see several points where I have provided updates on the site-wide pronoun tags (entirely separate from community flair, I might add) that are coming down the pipeline of updates, which I strongly pushed for and had the pleasure of discussing and brainstorming with the developers to make a reality. I personally didn't think the Discord had the capability to fully prevent misgendering because it would require someone to click on another person's profile and self-investigate? So how could that be improved moving away from the Discord? On the Lemmy, pronouns will be immediately next to your name site-wide leaving no excuse for misgendering going forward.

Someone else stated that "it’s kind of depressing that lgbt spaces here are empty" and "it raises the issue of what the priority is in affirmatively making sure there is a space here in chapo for our queer comrades to have a home, vs being a home for cis comrades to affirm their own perceived tolerance." It's hard to pull people to Lemmy when there is no guarantee I can prevent things like misgendering otherwise I personally would be trying to pull all of my trans and non-binary comrades here. It's actually one of my biggest concerns and I have addressed this concern in our space. I'm hesitant to really do anything in the trans and non-binary community until I can guarantee that no one will face dysphoria on that front.

I have discussed at-length with other moderators that I (and I can't stress this enough) DO NOT want cis people on my moderator board, as our people do not need cis people dictating the manner in which we can converse with each other about our trials and tribulations. Marie stated they want "reform" and for the "mod team to not be shit"? Here I fucking am. They want mods to be "held accountable for their actions"? I will absolutely swing for the fences for our people. "Will this ever happen?" they asked. Yes.

UPDATE:

I have tried everything possible to make amends. Yesterday on the statement I made allowing for any good faith grievances to be discussed, I received countless comments telling me to “talk to the Shorks”. Getting specific names of people in the Shork server was no easy feat, but I did it. I ended up reaching out to Shorkena, one of the moderators on the Shork server that Marie was kind enough to put me in contact with, and tried to pull together a group chat to have a good faith conversation about how to move forward. I tried everything to reach some sort of agreement. They’ve been spamming demanding that their voices and grievances be heard since we opened the Lemmy and I have gaven them multiple spaces space to freely do that and openly discuss grievances and how to move forward in good faith and they shuttered.

I gave them every opportunity I could possibly think to give and they squandered it and even went as far as mocking me within their own server and digging up drunken shitpost Tweets to openly mock me about instead of discussing their actual grievances with me, which you can see in the Imgur directory below.

I remained hopeful throughout all of this that I could pull something off and end all of this, but I have concluded there is no good faith attempt here anymore.

For all of those interested, here is every interaction I’ve had with any of them involved: https://imgur.com/a/rfN6joQ

REMOVED IMGUR ALBUM SO THOSE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE DOXXED.

  • TransComrade69
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    Okay. As I've previously stated, I really hated the Discord and it failed my people on multiple levels. And I wasn't a huge fan of the Shork server either. Discord is not my forte. I don't give a single bother about what Briggs thinks either, to be frank. I refuse to play telephone with people's grievances. I don't want to hear about people's grievances through cis moderators either. Again, I don't care what they think. I'm here right here and right now, please make your grievances known to me directly so I can address them and make improvements.

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        If you feel like you're a representative of the Shork community, tell them to come here and talk to me. Again, Discord is not my forte, nor am I a moderator there. But I am a moderator here where I am trying to make improvements upon the failures my people experienced on the Discord. Pass it on.

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            Ok, really. What are you trying to accomplish here? what more can we do? I'm one of the dev's. I'm trans. I personally made sure to advocate for the removal of every moderator and admin who abused their power or said hurtful and or inappropriate things. and they were. The mod team for the trans spaces is exclusively trans no, there is no hold over. I'm helping build features explicitly to protect my people.

            So serious question: what grievances are left that haven't been addressed? we arn't being pedantic when we ask this. we legitimently don't know how else to help. we want to help. :purple heart:

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              Well if want to name a big thing. People that do name their grievences keep getting deleted and banned so we can't even start until that's fixed.

              • TransComrade69
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                If you have any communication with them, please tell them to voice their grievances in this thread specifically where I am open and available to discussion.

                  • TransComrade69
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                    As I’ve previously stated, I really hated the Discord and it failed my people on multiple levels. And I wasn’t a huge fan of the Shork server either. Discord is not my forte. If you have any communication with them, please tell them to voice their grievances in this thread specifically where I am open and available to discussion.

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                      discord didn't fail. the admin team did.

                      you can reach out to them if you actually try

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                        Let the record show that I am not a moderator on Discord. My job is to make Lemmy a welcoming environment. People can make their grievances known in this thread specifically. Good faith arguments will not be banned or removed. I am open and available to discussion. Direct them here if you feel you are a representative of that community.

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                          You don't need to be a discord admin to reach out. If you really cared you could do that bare minimum, atleast.

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                            Earlier you said "it's not my responsibility" to talk to this mod who is trans and working hard to make things better about how to do that

                            Now you're saying it's this mods responsibility to go on Discord, which she mentioned repeatedly she doesn't use because it often induces dysphoria, and if she doesn't it means she doesn't really care about building a good space for trans and nonbinary people*

                            Hopefully you see that on a person to person level that's pretty mean.

                            It seems like you're saying you and your group are happy to stay on the discord and don't really care either way about being on Lemmy. I'm not sure if that's accurate but it's my impression.

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                            Again, I wasn't all that involved with the Discord during the eruption of all of this. I'm here on my own grounds trying to build something from the ashes. They are more than welcome to come to me with their grievances.

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                              That doesn't stop you from reaching out to them instead of urging them to come into this damage control thread where they'll continue to be ignored.

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                                Again, I am here and this is a thread for grievances. This isn't damage control. This is the space I have begun to build from the ashes of the Discord. Why would I reach out on a platform that I don't view as the way forward when we could grow, learn, and rebuild here? Come to me on the grounds that I've worked hard to build and am open to discussion on.

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                                  This isn’t damage control.

                                  Looks like and walks like damage control. Reach out to the shorks

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                                    Are you going to ignore everything else I said or say something remotely substantive?

          • TransComrade69
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            I highly encourage you to tell them to come to this post in particular and voice their grievances that I have not addressed thus far. Please and thank you. :)

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              I was trying to do yall a favor and explain why trans comrades weren't coming here. If ya'll really give this little of a fuck about it then whatever.

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                "I don’t represent the whole trans chapo community." If you don't represent them, then tell them to come here and talk to me where I have already stated that I am very available and very open to discussion of grievances.

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                  very available and very

                  locks a thread talking about this stuff to open a damage control thread

                  • TransComrade69
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                    Again, when the thread was locked, I was at work and unavailable. I am here and now for discussion. Please direct them here if you feel you are a representative of those who have unaddressed grievances.

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                      You can reach out to the shork server. Everyone else managed to do so really easily.

                      • TransComrade69
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                        I'm a community leader here. I was never involved in the Shork community. You can tell them to come here if you feel you are a representative of those who have unaddressed grievances.

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                          are you bound to chapo.chat by magic spell or something? You can still reach out if you want to.

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                          HEY HEY HEY. WOAH WOAH WOAH. NAH. NAH.

                            • TransComrade69
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                              What do you mean? You asked them for proof? Did you not read their response thoroughly enough?

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                                are you bound to chapo.chat by magic spell or something? You can still reach out if you want to.

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                                I mean your reaction and the fact that they deleted what was otherwise not a crazy out there comment makes me think something is up here.

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                                  I requested they delete it actually and I have receipts to prove it, if you're so curious. I am a transwoman fighting to build a space by and for us. This is not their fight and I don't particularly care what they think or have to say in this matter.

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                                    I'd like to take the time to point out bwp was the one that misgendered caden and took two weeks to apologize after 2 seperate negotiations, and they're still a part of the power structure here. This is one qualm I will bring up. You should still contact shorks

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                                      I'm aware. Which is another reason I do not want them in this space and especially not this discussion. I am a new moderator open to discussion of grievances.