This is funny but what really freaks me out is how full of hate they are for people so young.
I'm not even going to try to pretend I was one of the ultra popular kids but when I was that age, I really wasn't but I was doing stuff you know? Going to parties, getting drunk/stoned with friends, general messing about etc.
What do these kids do? What happens to someone so that they just spend their lives online pouring out hate until one day something snaps and they do a spree shooting?
I just keep thinking about the people in my year when I was their age. I just can't picture even the most ostracised outsiders doing stuff like that. I dunno, I am not absolving them at all of their shitty, evil behaviour but I am certain there must be some deeply evil and manipulative fucks who are getting their claws into kids like this really early on.
Yeah, I get that. I've never had the stomach for spending too long having a look at places like that but yeah, they do all seem to have that very insular, almost incestious feel to their communities.
And yeah, I do like how this place focuses on making a real, concrete difference to people around you in the real world.
As a “recluse” who wasn’t doing stuff up til the early half of college, I never thought it was acceptable to join an internet nazi meme cult and punch down on vulnerable groups. So while these people are definitely influenced by outside actors, they ultimately chose to become who they are.
Oh yeah that's for certain. I never meant to imply that it was out of their control. As you point out plenty of people go through social isolation without becoming nazis. ScreamoBMO bought up patterns of abuse and of course plenty of people who are abused also don't do shit like that. They're responsible for their actions but the outside actors are also utter peices of shit who deliberately target vulnerable young men.
Oh I imagine so. And I do absolutely understand that these pricks would murder me and my family if they could do it without any consequences.
It's just so depressing though. I don't think anyone is born evil so each of them kinda represents a wasted life. I'm not about to excuse them, as I said before, or waste more time wringing my hands over them than, for instance, their victims but it does just hit home sometimes how pathetic and wasteful it is.
They're probably out at parties and shit too - the persecution complex is divorced from real life (or related to one person not fucking them).
I think I had a pretty normal high school experience - but as the Chris Rock joke goes, if you look at the Columbine shooters they had more 'friends' than me.
You might be right. I guess they're perhaps aware enough that their views are abhorrent to the vast majority of people who they interact with offline to not spout them without being aware enough to really question why.
i was pretty full of hate (i got sexually assaulted a lot) when i was younger but hrt fixed me up to some degree. i started out being a socialist and the hatred just made me apathetic for a time period until i went back to being a socialist when i got my shit somewhat sorted.
getting assaulted by many random strangers made me stop feeling socialist things because i no longer gave a shit about any other random person. talking about it helped me get out of that mindset
This is funny but what really freaks me out is how full of hate they are for people so young.
I'm not even going to try to pretend I was one of the ultra popular kids but when I was that age, I really wasn't but I was doing stuff you know? Going to parties, getting drunk/stoned with friends, general messing about etc.
What do these kids do? What happens to someone so that they just spend their lives online pouring out hate until one day something snaps and they do a spree shooting?
I just keep thinking about the people in my year when I was their age. I just can't picture even the most ostracised outsiders doing stuff like that. I dunno, I am not absolving them at all of their shitty, evil behaviour but I am certain there must be some deeply evil and manipulative fucks who are getting their claws into kids like this really early on.
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Yeah, I get that. I've never had the stomach for spending too long having a look at places like that but yeah, they do all seem to have that very insular, almost incestious feel to their communities.
And yeah, I do like how this place focuses on making a real, concrete difference to people around you in the real world.
As a “recluse” who wasn’t doing stuff up til the early half of college, I never thought it was acceptable to join an internet nazi meme cult and punch down on vulnerable groups. So while these people are definitely influenced by outside actors, they ultimately chose to become who they are.
Not that I think they can’t change.
Oh yeah that's for certain. I never meant to imply that it was out of their control. As you point out plenty of people go through social isolation without becoming nazis. ScreamoBMO bought up patterns of abuse and of course plenty of people who are abused also don't do shit like that. They're responsible for their actions but the outside actors are also utter peices of shit who deliberately target vulnerable young men.
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Oh I imagine so. And I do absolutely understand that these pricks would murder me and my family if they could do it without any consequences.
It's just so depressing though. I don't think anyone is born evil so each of them kinda represents a wasted life. I'm not about to excuse them, as I said before, or waste more time wringing my hands over them than, for instance, their victims but it does just hit home sometimes how pathetic and wasteful it is.
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Yeah I really hope so too, and glad to hear you got out of that kinda shit. There is some hope for some of them at least.
They're probably out at parties and shit too - the persecution complex is divorced from real life (or related to one person not fucking them).
I think I had a pretty normal high school experience - but as the Chris Rock joke goes, if you look at the Columbine shooters they had more 'friends' than me.
You might be right. I guess they're perhaps aware enough that their views are abhorrent to the vast majority of people who they interact with offline to not spout them without being aware enough to really question why.
i was pretty full of hate (i got sexually assaulted a lot) when i was younger but hrt fixed me up to some degree. i started out being a socialist and the hatred just made me apathetic for a time period until i went back to being a socialist when i got my shit somewhat sorted.
getting assaulted by many random strangers made me stop feeling socialist things because i no longer gave a shit about any other random person. talking about it helped me get out of that mindset