They said this same stuff about Clinton back in 2016. "Most progressive platform in history".
Biden's Obamacare expansion is just to bring back the mandatory tax fines where you miss one payment on your insurance, they raise your taxes and fine you. That was the one thing that people hated the most and one of the first things Trump got rid of when he came into the oval office.
Dems have made it clear they don't want people to have healthcare, they want them to have health insurance. Whether that insurance is too expensive for most people living pay check to pay check, they don't care.
I don't know how I wasn't aware he was bringing back the individual mandate. So great to fine people for not giving money to completely unnecessary for-profit middlemen and still effectively not having healthcare because they can't afford the deductible and things wouldn't be covered anyway. At least that added expense they probably also can't afford goes towards continuing to deny them healthcare and other necessities.
Absolutely. Biden has flat out said that he plans to bring back the individual mandate. That alone is probably the biggest reason Obamacare was so widely hated across the country when it first passed.
Obamacare is already despised by everyone who isn't middle class (the only people who actually benefit from it) and I expect Biden to make it even more unpopular with his plans for it.
Biden also said during the debate with Trump the only people who would eligible for any public option would be at income levels that would meet Medicaid requirements. So it’s like Medicaid but run by the feds? Which of course it is the insurance industry doesn’t want them anyway, Literally none of their profits or immoral business model is touched under Biden’s plans.
Yeah, he's basically admitting that the poor are going to get fucked either way under his plan. He's the "middle class" president. In other words, fuck you if you're poor. No different from the conservatives that he loves so much.
This presidency is going to be a goddamn nightmare. I don't know how the hell people truly think Biden is quote on quote "harm reduction". He's going to push the class war into overdrive, and we'll see a heavy amount of anti-government stuff coming from the right wing again like back in the Obama era.
I give the blue majorities in Congress like 2 years. In 2022 GOP will run on anti-government stuff and win back the house and senate. 2024 whatever right wing maniac comes out of a post Trump party runs on repealing Obamacare again and wins. The ACA is going to be a god damn political football the next 20 years the Democrats will not allow us to move beyond it.
well yeah, lol, the insurance system is probably going to implode without the mandate as healthy, young, poor people continue opting out. and once it collapses, what will all the poor insurance execs do? think of the profits.
I remember when Obamacare first passed the supreme court and looking over it, and trying to figure out how the fuck it was supposed to help me or ANYONE who wasn't middle class with a good income. Insurance rates by employer are so expensive and of course, none of the options I had covered dental.
Obamacare was always more of a bailout to insurance companies than it was anything to help us. When Biden talks about "expanding" Obamacare, it's just going to force more people to pay for insurance and go into debt from it. There is a reason it's so unpopular and states across the country have been trying to get rid of it since day 1.
100% spot on. It's a Republican written healthcare package. Also goes to show how the Democratic party moves further to the right with the GOP every decade. Even setting aside Obamacare, they have literally become the 2000s era Republican party in this election cycle. Biden is basically George W Bush 2.0 and their "law and order" campaign isn't that far off from the authoritarian measures the GOP was taking back then. Biden isn't even hiding the fact he's going to wage naked class war on us with how he fixates all the 'middle class' talk in his campaign ads and speeches.
I remember when Obamacare first passed and libs were saying it was the first step towards getting single payer, and that is never going to happen. They spent the entire primary shutting down M4A and the Green New Deal. I don't think they remember that all through the years of Obama's second term, Republicans in red states were getting heavy support by attacking Obamacare. It's a widely hated health insurance program cause it fucks over anyone and everyone who isn't middle class.
They said this same stuff about Clinton back in 2016. "Most progressive platform in history".
Biden's Obamacare expansion is just to bring back the mandatory tax fines where you miss one payment on your insurance, they raise your taxes and fine you. That was the one thing that people hated the most and one of the first things Trump got rid of when he came into the oval office.
Dems have made it clear they don't want people to have healthcare, they want them to have health insurance. Whether that insurance is too expensive for most people living pay check to pay check, they don't care.
I don't know how I wasn't aware he was bringing back the individual mandate. So great to fine people for not giving money to completely unnecessary for-profit middlemen and still effectively not having healthcare because they can't afford the deductible and things wouldn't be covered anyway. At least that added expense they probably also can't afford goes towards continuing to deny them healthcare and other necessities.
Absolutely. Biden has flat out said that he plans to bring back the individual mandate. That alone is probably the biggest reason Obamacare was so widely hated across the country when it first passed.
Obamacare is already despised by everyone who isn't middle class (the only people who actually benefit from it) and I expect Biden to make it even more unpopular with his plans for it.
Biden also said during the debate with Trump the only people who would eligible for any public option would be at income levels that would meet Medicaid requirements. So it’s like Medicaid but run by the feds? Which of course it is the insurance industry doesn’t want them anyway, Literally none of their profits or immoral business model is touched under Biden’s plans.
Yeah, he's basically admitting that the poor are going to get fucked either way under his plan. He's the "middle class" president. In other words, fuck you if you're poor. No different from the conservatives that he loves so much.
This presidency is going to be a goddamn nightmare. I don't know how the hell people truly think Biden is quote on quote "harm reduction". He's going to push the class war into overdrive, and we'll see a heavy amount of anti-government stuff coming from the right wing again like back in the Obama era.
I give the blue majorities in Congress like 2 years. In 2022 GOP will run on anti-government stuff and win back the house and senate. 2024 whatever right wing maniac comes out of a post Trump party runs on repealing Obamacare again and wins. The ACA is going to be a god damn political football the next 20 years the Democrats will not allow us to move beyond it.
well yeah, lol, the insurance system is probably going to implode without the mandate as healthy, young, poor people continue opting out. and once it collapses, what will all the poor insurance execs do? think of the profits.
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I remember when Obamacare first passed the supreme court and looking over it, and trying to figure out how the fuck it was supposed to help me or ANYONE who wasn't middle class with a good income. Insurance rates by employer are so expensive and of course, none of the options I had covered dental.
Obamacare was always more of a bailout to insurance companies than it was anything to help us. When Biden talks about "expanding" Obamacare, it's just going to force more people to pay for insurance and go into debt from it. There is a reason it's so unpopular and states across the country have been trying to get rid of it since day 1.
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100% spot on. It's a Republican written healthcare package. Also goes to show how the Democratic party moves further to the right with the GOP every decade. Even setting aside Obamacare, they have literally become the 2000s era Republican party in this election cycle. Biden is basically George W Bush 2.0 and their "law and order" campaign isn't that far off from the authoritarian measures the GOP was taking back then. Biden isn't even hiding the fact he's going to wage naked class war on us with how he fixates all the 'middle class' talk in his campaign ads and speeches.
I remember when Obamacare first passed and libs were saying it was the first step towards getting single payer, and that is never going to happen. They spent the entire primary shutting down M4A and the Green New Deal. I don't think they remember that all through the years of Obama's second term, Republicans in red states were getting heavy support by attacking Obamacare. It's a widely hated health insurance program cause it fucks over anyone and everyone who isn't middle class.