I want to see if you actually know what you're talking about

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    Must read: https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-complete-guide-us-government-role.html?m=1

    Imho your comments here display the effectiveness of colour revolutions

    Because there is usually a good reason to protest and the current gov is a bit shit and a rightest monarchy

    However there was also legitimate reason to protest in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Hong Kong and Belarus

    In the first 3 cases those movements were co-opted and their countries sent into death spirals. In the case of Libya, Libya will not even rise again even as a viable bourgeois nation for decades. This is after under Gadaffis leadership Libyans enjoyed the highest standard of living on the continent of Africa

    Who is coopting the protests?

    2 virulently antiChinese billionaires tied to Wallstreet finance and the Cia (Ned)

    Thaksin was part of the Carlyle group and Prime Minister of Thailand in early 00s where he sent Thai troops to Iraq to please US master and set up black site cia torture camps

    Why?

    Because Thailand is shifting rapidly into Chinas sphere of influence. In this light we should view the contradiction mostly in the light of US imperialism wanting to contain China and keep its US military bases and black site torture camps in Thailand

    Who is leading the protests?

    Thai Lawyers for Human Rights which is a Cia funded organisation. Of course they would be as their name gave me a fuzzy feeling

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fgw5PX5Y0Ds/Xz1ayUSjEuI/AAAAAAAATmY/0AW-PiXddKQmEWPOQU43Tkq4hgT6vrLsACNcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Quote_StudentProtesters_Unquote.jpg

    Assembly of the Poor, claiming to represent Thailands rural poor is also Cia funded and their listed as a member of Neds website

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z3zv9XaARpQ/X0Hl2S9soFI/AAAAAAAATrI/ybAmSMbO8SsJGmEsyji228IHKT117UFVQCNcBGAsYHQ/s1600/AOP_YouTube_ThaiPoorAct2.jpeg

    The people trying to rewrite the Thai constitution are named The Internet Law Reform Dialogue (iLaw) whos primary source of income is you guessed it Cia (Ned)

    If a foreign Ngo was trying to rewrite US constitution to allow said foreign country easier access to the US the US woild declare war. They sanctioned Russia over a few facebook ads barely anyone saw

    The US does not care about Thailand or Thai people. If the US could send Thailand into a civil war like they did Libya, Syria or Ukraine they would do it without a seconds thought and the only though through their mind would be "fuck China".

    • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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      That's all great

      But no one in Thailand is happy with the current junta government. It's more than a bit shit. It's garbage.

      • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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        "No one in Libya is happy with Gadaffi. He's more than a bit shit. He's garbage" - some Libyan protestor, circa 2011

        I think a problem a lot of people have is that they can't imagine how worse things can get.

        The NED would watch the entire country of Thailand burn (as they did so many South American countries/Middle east/Africa/Ukraine) if it meant hindering China for even a minute

        • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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          Yeah well the Monarchy should pull its head out of its ass than. But they are to worried about being trad Thai.

          Also what resources do they have that the USA wants?

          • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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            It's not about resources it's about the Great Game

            Thailand is buying Chinese not American military hardware, doing military exercises with Beijing and is a key partner in the BRI initiative with a China-Laos-Thailand-Malaysia-Singapore high-speed rail link that will only further cement these ties.

            Which will inevitably mean at some point Thailand will kick out those US military bases and black site CIA torture camps

            Thailand is little more than fair game for a proxy war for US against China

            • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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              So where will this proxy war start?

              Libya Syria Ukraine you have different cultures to go against each other pretty easily.

              Where does it happen in Thailand?

              • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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                Where does the proxy war start?

                It already has - the 2 billionaires tied to Wallstreet finance and the "student led" protests funded by the CIA.

                This is the same playbook CIA does since the first colour revolution in Hungary 1956. You saw the exact same thing happen in Hong Kong - a load of CIA/NED funded "student leaders" who use violence and rioting to further their agenda who then aim to incite police violence on the protestors which would then be used as propaganda to topple the regime

                You want to see this in action look no further than TIannenmen protests which started because the CIA had a mole inside the Communist Party and Deng Xiao Peng was sick and student leader Chai Ling stating she won't go to the protests that day as she's hoping for the government to massacre the students

                You the chinese are not worth my struggle you are not worth my sacrifice.

                The students keep asking what shall we do next? I feel so sad. Becuase how can I tell them we are hoping for bloodshed? Because for the moment the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eys. only then will they be united. How can I explain all this to my fellow students?

                And what is truly sad is some students are working hard with the government to prevent it taking such measures. For the sake of their selfish interests they are trying to get us out of the square before the government becomes so desperate it takes action. If we allow the movement to collapse on its own then the government will be able to wipe out the leaders of the movement as well as those in the party and military

                That's why I feel so sad I can't tell my fellow students straight out we must use our blood and lives to rise up. Of course the students will be willing but they are still such young children

                Are you going to stay in the square yourself?

                No I won't

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__ESiklA1A

                Why didn't Chai Ling go to the protests and why weren't the Chinese worth her sacrifice? Because the US had already given her a green card

                If the US could get their man into Thailand and keep relations pro US for a few years they'd call that a win. If they can't they'd be happy to see Thailand burnt to the ground like Libya, Syria or Ukraine

                Either they'd consider a win

            • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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              No it's pretty easy

              It's literally land of free people. The previous king changed the name to promote the nationalistic pride in being the only country to not be colonized. I mean Japan was there in ww2 but people act like they where invited. I mean they allied with Japan during the war.

              Their flag is red white and blue.
              Do the math

              You really think a bunch of doughy wimpy students are going to lead to a Civil War? What national resource does Thailand have that the USA wants?

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    c'mon you gotta at least say something about what the takes are

    • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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      I've just seen a few grim taker knocking on doors memes. And that is funded by some democracy Ngo.

      I have a ton of family in Thailand. The last king was beloved. People wanted his daughter the princess to be made queen but they kept it trad and brought in the coke head man whore prince who still lives in Germany while being the king of Thailand. Everyone knew protests would happen eventually.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        have you read this

        https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-complete-guide-us-government-role.html

        • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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          So which one do you support.

          A monarchy led junta government

          Or anti monarchy protests that are also in a round about way anti Chinese. Or hoping that they will be anti Chinese.

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            yes let me back the side that corrupt billionaire shitfuck Thaksin Shinawatra and the CIA are backing because there's anti-monarchy rhetoric

            • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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              Okay so your taking the corrupt as fuck military side.

              Its Thailand bro. The whole place is super corrupt and very nationalistic.

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                Okay so your[sic] taking the corrupt as fuck US imperialism side.

                Its Chinatown Jake, as if that's a good reason to side with the fucking CIA

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                  I'll take what my family is supporting since I have not lived there since the actual red shirt uprising drum thaksin.

                  You're a yellow shirt.

  • scramplunge [comrade/them]
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    Y’all be with the shits. I honestly did not understand what was happening in Thailand. The op said come on chapos bring it on you don’t know shit. And y’all came with the heat. I would still need to do my own research to understand, but y’all be super worldly. Inspiring.

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      Y’all be with the shits.

      :virgil-sad:

    • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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      Lol. I said explain your self. As in show me info. And they did. It doesn't change how I feel cuz I have some actual understanding of the country.

      And I still don't think it's going to lead to what they think it might.

      Peaceful protests are ignored. This will be no different.

      If it gets some of the more hardcore Thais than maybe some Street fighting. Thailand is a country of coups. It's what they do.

        • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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          Today's Cia and 1950s cias are very different things. Modern Cia is a joke

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              Like I said. Post ww2 Cia compared to now a days is not the same. Both your examples have been fucked with since the 50s

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                Uhhhhh we’ve been fucking with the whole world since the 50s. And we view China as our number one threat. Idk what you mean by the cia is not the same. They do all the same shit. They don’t need competent pigs. We have bases everywhere and ops who tell them what to do along with rogue private armies that carry out any mission the cia pays for.

              • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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                What the fuck are you talking about, Libya literally had the highest standard of living in Africa until they got color revolution'd during the Obama administration. Syria is in ruins with millions displaced due to a CIA color revolution. What do you mean by the CIA not being what it used to be?

                • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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                  They didn't just get color revolution. We led military strikes into Libya. Not some lame hk protest scenario.

  • Sushi_Desires
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    hunter biden sucks shit