I want to see if you actually know what you're talking about

  • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    That's all great

    But no one in Thailand is happy with the current junta government. It's more than a bit shit. It's garbage.

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      "No one in Libya is happy with Gadaffi. He's more than a bit shit. He's garbage" - some Libyan protestor, circa 2011

      I think a problem a lot of people have is that they can't imagine how worse things can get.

      The NED would watch the entire country of Thailand burn (as they did so many South American countries/Middle east/Africa/Ukraine) if it meant hindering China for even a minute

      • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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        Yeah well the Monarchy should pull its head out of its ass than. But they are to worried about being trad Thai.

        Also what resources do they have that the USA wants?

        • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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          It's not about resources it's about the Great Game

          Thailand is buying Chinese not American military hardware, doing military exercises with Beijing and is a key partner in the BRI initiative with a China-Laos-Thailand-Malaysia-Singapore high-speed rail link that will only further cement these ties.

          Which will inevitably mean at some point Thailand will kick out those US military bases and black site CIA torture camps

          Thailand is little more than fair game for a proxy war for US against China

          • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            So where will this proxy war start?

            Libya Syria Ukraine you have different cultures to go against each other pretty easily.

            Where does it happen in Thailand?

            • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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              Where does the proxy war start?

              It already has - the 2 billionaires tied to Wallstreet finance and the "student led" protests funded by the CIA.

              This is the same playbook CIA does since the first colour revolution in Hungary 1956. You saw the exact same thing happen in Hong Kong - a load of CIA/NED funded "student leaders" who use violence and rioting to further their agenda who then aim to incite police violence on the protestors which would then be used as propaganda to topple the regime

              You want to see this in action look no further than TIannenmen protests which started because the CIA had a mole inside the Communist Party and Deng Xiao Peng was sick and student leader Chai Ling stating she won't go to the protests that day as she's hoping for the government to massacre the students

              You the chinese are not worth my struggle you are not worth my sacrifice.

              The students keep asking what shall we do next? I feel so sad. Becuase how can I tell them we are hoping for bloodshed? Because for the moment the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eys. only then will they be united. How can I explain all this to my fellow students?

              And what is truly sad is some students are working hard with the government to prevent it taking such measures. For the sake of their selfish interests they are trying to get us out of the square before the government becomes so desperate it takes action. If we allow the movement to collapse on its own then the government will be able to wipe out the leaders of the movement as well as those in the party and military

              That's why I feel so sad I can't tell my fellow students straight out we must use our blood and lives to rise up. Of course the students will be willing but they are still such young children

              Are you going to stay in the square yourself?

              No I won't

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__ESiklA1A

              Why didn't Chai Ling go to the protests and why weren't the Chinese worth her sacrifice? Because the US had already given her a green card

              If the US could get their man into Thailand and keep relations pro US for a few years they'd call that a win. If they can't they'd be happy to see Thailand burnt to the ground like Libya, Syria or Ukraine

              Either they'd consider a win

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                  Hong Kong would be the most recent one which is following the exact same pattern as Thailand right now. Where student leaders were funded by CIA, were seen collaborating with US deep state people, funded in collaboration with billionaires like Jimmy Lai (who literally called for US and CIA intervention...yes he literally said CIA intervention lol) who were incredibly violent toward police and mainland Chinese people that showed patriotism to PRC or did such innocuous things as hold a Chinese flag and say that "China is one"

                  https://www.mintpressnews.com/hong-kong-protest-united-states-destabilize-china/261712/

                  Also Nicaragua

                  In early June, Nicaragua’s leading young activists went on a junket to Washington, DC, on the dime of the US government-funded right-wing advocacy group Freedom House. The Nicaraguan student leaders were there to beseech Donald Trump and other right-wing US government officials to help them in their fight against Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega.

                  A month before the student protesters’ meetings with ultra-conservative lawmakers in Washington, a publication funded by the US government’s regime change arm, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), bluntly asserted that organizations backed by the NED have spent years and millions of dollars “laying the groundwork for insurrection” in Nicaragua.

                  https://popularresistance.org/ned-boasts-of-laying-the-groundwork-for-nicaraguan-insurrection/

                  • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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                    Once again. Hk sees it self differnt from China, so you can exploit that easily. And it still didn't lead to Anything becuase it was mostly peaceful

                    Thai people like certain aspects of the Monarchy. I guess it could get rowdy. But from students I don't know.

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                    Hungary 1956 was not nearly a colour revolution. No one of those kids wanted anything to do with capitalism. Rightists today still hold a grudge against the US because "they didn't come to help."

          • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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            No it's pretty easy

            It's literally land of free people. The previous king changed the name to promote the nationalistic pride in being the only country to not be colonized. I mean Japan was there in ww2 but people act like they where invited. I mean they allied with Japan during the war.

            Their flag is red white and blue.
            Do the math

            You really think a bunch of doughy wimpy students are going to lead to a Civil War? What national resource does Thailand have that the USA wants?