Omfg they really are gonna push flipping Arizona again? After that went so poorly for Clinton? It really is 2016 but another layer down in hellworld

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you think that is bad, every 4 years we have to hear about how Texas is supposedly going to turn blue.

    • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I have family in Georgia. Every year they sit there and gleefully tell me how “it’s gonna flip blue one day! Just you wait. “

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        Same here, I have family there and in Louisiana. Georgia is interesting that Biden actually led there earlier this month and back in 2016, Clinton was tied with Trump there during the summer. Clinton lost that state by less than 5 points.

        Neither Clinton or Biden have stepped foot in Georgia. The Dems don't even bother campaigning in some of these states but expect it to turn blue every 4 years.

        • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Hell Biden is refusing to campaign in Michigan either. I still don’t think they even have a campaign office there. The DNC strategy is always so big brained and stupid

          • OhWell [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Just like 2016 when Hillary didn't campaign in Wisconsin. She also only visited Florida once and it was only after the Pulse night club shooting. The DNC's strategy is to tell these people fuck you, and that they don't matter to them unless they live in a big city, but vote blue no matter who otherwise you're a terrible person.

            • Balkinbalkans [he/him]
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              Vote Blue No Matter Who has poisoned the well for what was already a quagmire of political discourse. Do we not care about policy anymore? Does someone's voting record disappear because they have a D next to their name? The Dems are just as culty as the Repubs with the way they expect voters to fall in line and blindly trust in their golden calf.

              • russianattack [he/him]
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                and if you have any doubts of the D cult just look at how people changed their mind on fracking after biden said he wouldn't eliminate it. this thing people know is bad, suddenly becomes less bad because a D is saying it's not bad

                • Balkinbalkans [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm just as horrified by the people who got fired up by the George Floyd murder and then immediately went soft on cops again when Biden started saying he wasn't going to defund the police.

            • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Obama literally saying this and white assholes I know being like “well where is he wrong?”

          • RION [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            "What do you mean by 'ground game'?"

            The incompetence is almost endearing sometimes

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Take the black pill. You think Biden will lose because the left hates him. Biden will win because the left doesn't matter. The centrists will rub our faces in it for two years, yet blame us when they lose the house in 2022. We are both irrelevant and the determining factor.

    The electorate is extremely stupid. They are going to vote Trump out because life has gotten worse recently and they want things to go back to normal, and they won't. They don't know why everything sucks and they will never learn. They will blame the incumbent for whatever's happening and vote against incumbents while both parties slide further to the right.

    Unless Biden somehow ends up being the tip of the spear of a change in American politics. But that's not going to happen.

    • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Schrödinger's leftist is a genuine thing. And I’ve accepted that the worst shit will probs happen And that electorism isn’t even ok

      HOWEVER I will still do it for the local elections where I can get a god damn socialist into my city council. Will do it to help form big tent praxis, and to continue what the dude in the AOC post mentioned, where the more people who show actual concern for the poor and downtrodden are in power the more those people realize they have a real say And power in what they do.

      Call me a lib all you want but I’ll do praxis with a soc dem any day if it makes the conditions better. Beats just shitting on here all day (but nothing bear posting all day, nothing beats that)

  • acabforcutie [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    the polls might look good for biden in states like arizona and even texas but at the end of the day, voter suppression will keep a lot of people from voting and i don’t really know how people don’t realize that.

    • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      While this is true Texas is already at 91% of 2016 turnout and will likely surpass it before election day.

  • ItsPequod [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They still think they can flip Texas. The Americans are so cucked.

  • artangels [he/him]
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    Bidens gonna win Arizona bigger than NC or even PA. They are one of the few swing states that genuinely love moderate democrats.