https://pca.st/episode/312d5284-2917-4b02-87c5-3cb25cea0385
Like, is any of this shit real? It's so surreal the contrast between this shit and, like, CNN or The Pod Johns.
But a good run down on the Hunter Biden story, only 1% I had heard before listening to this, if true, I suppose.
What's people's opinions on the host? They seem trustworthy and on the up and up, but like I said, its so surreal.
What’s people’s opinions on the host?
Brace is the only one I would follow into a protracted people's war in the Florida everglades.
We would live underwater, breathing through straws. The manatees would accept us among them and help obscure us from aerial surveillance.
Are there any VC/NVA sources that discuss their use of tunnels? I know they were famous for tunnels, but when I see they were deploying the old roof snake trick I think of the bogus illustrations of bin Laden's secret Tora Bora terrordrome.
docu with interviews from viet cong: https://youtu.be/19ejFuEyHyk
no mention of snakes here ¯\(ツ)/¯
I'm assuming we would seize the cool fan boats that they use to ferry tourists around in
Serious but maybe stupid question, what did they do with all the dirt?
I would follow TrueAnon in to hell. Because they're sexy. Really, really sexy. Each in their own unique way.
idk, to do an episode on the kochs then jump on this hunter biden train a couple months later is pretty fucking bizarre given that they're carrying koch water in doing so
liz tweeting about 'twitter censorship' about that story but absolutely fuckall about blueleaks got me to stop listening to them entirely
your last sentence is probably right but that's an indictment on left media more than anything else.
lol that's some convoluted fucking logic you got there.
I could give a shit about the hunter biden stuff. It's undoubtedly real, but it's got strong 'gotcha hypocrite' vibes, like making a huge deal about trump banging a pornstar or whatever.
carrying koch water is joining with the rest of the koch-funded apparatus in decrying big tech censorship over this particular story instead of the real shit that's also been censored, but isn't fucking red meat for that crowd (i.e. BlueLeaks)
I thought that was pretty fucking clear in my comment, but if you need to strawman any fucking criticism into lib bullshit, suit yourself.
almost as much of a reach as your last comment
I'm not saying they're hypocrites, I'm saying they're either lazy or gullible or both. The point about BlueLeaks isn't 'you didn't do it then', it's that you can fucking critique tech censorship without adding your voice to a cryptofash mob.
lol do you actually think the folks whining about twitter censoring the biden story aren't mostly koch-orbit people?
this whole thing started with me pointing out a instance where the right wing wasn't fucking talking about big tech censorship
I can't help the fact that you want to conflate my criticism with a defense of failchild corruption that it never was.
vote blue no matter who shit
I voted for La Riva, who fuuuuuuuucking cares
Nah dude, it's not "carrying Koch water" to attack corrupt POS democrats.
Brace is a hero of the revolution. A fighter in the YPG and a union salt and a proletariat dirtbag
I think of them as like the Left's answer to super-market scandal rags. A lot of the stuff they report on isn't that actionable, but it's fucking fascinating to hear about what the sick fuckos at the top get up to in their spare time.
While there has been no evidence as of yet, I've been suspecting a major anti-china astroturfing campaign on Reddit and other social media. I haven't had any idea who was doing it until this episode because Steve Bannon + exiled Chinese billionaire + neocons makes it pretty clear
I said the same thing around a month or two before the CTH went down, it seems very heavily concentrated on reddit but who knows for sure. Reddit and xenophobia and racism go hand in hand but one thing is for sure, the HK protests got more traction than any protest ever I've ever seen not just on reddit but on the internet. Even my dumb gamer discord friends who are very apolitical were constantly talking about it. Then one day, it seemed like most of the same spaces spamming about HK just magically stopped. At least not even a fraction of what it was for months.
Now they are on a Uighur kick.
Next month they’ll switch to Taiwanese or Manchu victims or who knows what bullshit
Is this a bit?
Like of course there is anti China astroturfing on Reddit.
Spend 5 seconds on the sight and you'll see Chinese racist slurs, Reddit platinum given to any Zenz post and fuck China as the top post in many subs.
Well yeah but I mean an actual bot/shill campaign which has been very effective. Anti-China posts put up right before the east coast wakes up, top three comments always long anti-china screeds massively up voted because we only read like 1-3 threads, getting shut down if you point out this suspicious stuff. There's no documents though so it just remains a theory.
We agree that this is going on. Maybe the best point is that if it were a coordinated misinformation campaign by the US government, how would it look any different?
I certainly haven't ruled out US government involvement. It's just that I now know that a guy with a history of social media manipulation in favor of right wing causes, an exiled Chinese billionaire, and a council of neocons are coordinating against China and they seem like prime suspects for this sort of thing whereas the military or intelligence community sowing disinformation on Reddit on their own accord seemed slightly (and I mean very slightly) less plausible. Not to mention that it's all a rotating door and these people are always moving in and out of government whenever it's convenient.
I completely understand the feeling. I feel the same way and I embrace it.
When I listen I often look up what they talk about - and it's all verifiable. I haven't listened to that episode, but everything liz and brace say is backed up with facts, quotes, sources, etc. Everytime I've checked.
what about that 9/11 truther shit they did a while back, that was the moment i stepped back and like, okay maybe these guys are a little kooky
The first couple parts were good. Like the recovered data from hard drives in wtc7 that showed a ton of suspicious trade deals up until a few minutes before collapse
Bro what there's even a CNN article on that shit
That shits crazy
Yeah that's a good point. That one was a little umm, unsourced.
I feel like it's a bit different because it is a very tinfoil hat topic, but you're right, I really don't know how much I don't know about a lot of other topics.
i believe everything they said those episodes, and no, i will not go look it up myself.
They get pretty out there, but at the end they say essentially "we don't really know what happened". Really hard to tell what they believe about 9/11 and what they were just covering since other 9/11 truthers believe it. Lots of dumb shit though, my respect for them went down a little.
Listen to them, and then immediately listen to Well There's Your Problem's 9/11 episode.
Good to know. I feel like my bs detector is functionally, but I was/am a lib for most my life
Well, I was/am also a super lib most of my life, so I don't know. Maybe we're both getting duped. But how and why?
Will2live had a good point about their 9/11 truther episode. It was based in a lot of conjecture and (cra-see) interpretations of video evidence and tinfoil hat conspiracy treated as more truthy then it should be.
But I still feel that almost all of their historical stuff is researched and based in documentation and their interpretations of class theory.
The spider network episodes blew my mind. Like I feel like Not_Irony was describing, like I'm being gaslighted, but I not by true anon, by the rest of media and history that I have been taught.
it’s all verifiable
certainly verifiable, but verifiably false a good chunk of the time
In their gates foundation episode they talk about a malaria vaccine trial in India that resulted in high rates of irreversible negative outcomes, charaterizing the vaccine as experimental and the trial as not even an efficacy/safety expirment but a public health expirement to test willingness to vaccinate.
Problem is that it's conflating two separate trials, a gardasil trial that was to gauge willingness to vaccinate (gardasil being one of the best tested vaccines humanity has) and an actual FDA stage 3 trial of an experimental malaria drug. A half-hour of internet research and reading the actual fucking abstracts of these published papers was enough to discover the truth.
doesn't make the gates foundation any less neocolonial eugenic bullshit, but if you parrot the trueanon bullshit your argument loses legitimacy
Thanks. I haven't fact checked everything on true anon, of course, but what I have has a pretty good track record - saying that, it's pretty clear when they're talking about something they know a lot about and when they're just reading notes that they've made.
I certainly trust them a lot more on the former types of episodes than on the latter, which the Gates foundation episodes were for sure.
I do like to hear when they're wrong about things, though.
It's real. The Biden family's corruption is well documented, but it's the kind of corruption that every fail son or daughter engages in. That's why you don't hear about it, because it would implicate the system. Can't have that.
it’s the kind of corruption that every fail son or daughter engages in
that's the thing. it's only worth a deep-dive to own the libs when they go in on the trump family like they're some kind of anomaly
IMO the Joe Manchin faildaughter pharma grift was infinitely worse
What’s people’s opinions on the host? They seem trustworthy and on the up and up, but like I said, its so surreal.
never gave em money but I took them & their graywolf feed off my podcatcher after they jumped on this hunter biden thing
some of their takes are good but you gotta vet everything they say--they've platformed bullshit as absolute fact in the past, and I got burned for uncritically parroting it
Yes they do veer into conspiracy crankery sometimes, which was most egregiously on display when they talked about 9/11 Truth shit with an unironic controlled demolition guy.
I mean I am a 9/11 Truther myself but there is little evidence that a controlled demo took place
Honestly Matt as usual has made an excellent point about conspiracy theories like 9/11 Truth in his recent vlogs.
Ultimately it doesn't matter whether 9/11 was an inside job or not because conspiracy theory, as an inherently reactionary way of looking at events and politics, eventually runs up against a wall: "So you're one of the elect who has connected the dots and discovered The Awful Truth. Now what?"
What actual difference does it make, in any material sense, if it came out tomorrow that Bush literally did 9/11? Nothing. What are you going to do about that is the only question that matters, and conspiracy theory doesn't answer it. And if you need to some Awful Truth to motivate you to taking meaningful political action that will fundamentally shift society, then you're not going to do anything about that after learning that Awful Truth anyways. The retreat into conspiracy theory is the effect of learned helplessness and an inability to meaningfully affect society around you. The only way to change this attitude is to engage in Marxist analysis and communist organizing, and if you're at that point you're not going to be worrying about conspiracy theory anyways.
Got any reading that argues against the hunter biden allegations?
oh don't get me wrong I have 0 reason to disbelieve anything about hunter, it's just got the same 'hypocrite gotcha' energy as when folks were talking about regeneron using stem cells like that was some trump self-own
it just absolutely boggles my mind that Liz was whining about 'twitter censorship' in 100% alignment with koch-funded ghouls about this particular news story and absolutely fucking crickets about the way that same censorship gun was pointed at blueleaks/DDoSecrets, an actually leftist project
you didn’t listen to the fucking episode lol at no point do they discuss the emails and they straight up say several times that none of it is enough to get joe himself on corruption. what actually is the problem with anything they said?
"they’ve platformed bullshit as absolute fact in the past, and I got burned for uncritically parroting it" Do you mind sharing which episode or what the subject matter was? Not being combative, legit curious.
yes if you are a pro china chad like me youve been following bannon and the gong for the past 4 years
cia funds falun gong, verified for sure. bannon arrested with the chinese billionaire shit true. its all real. the reason YOU feel gaslit is because youve not heard the real truth of whats going on ever.
weve been talking about the hk protests and the xinjiang vocational schools for a looooooong time. shits fucked. its all being staged.
Upvote this image to scare Falun Gong cultists
Amazing how little people in the west know about Falun Gong and their network of power
Is this a bit? TrueAnon is just a popular if not more than Chapo on this website
Not even the most insane leftist conspiracy idiot out there. You gotta try some grubstakers pod
I subbed to them and forgot, apparently. I'll give a revisit. Any recent episode recs?
Idk. Sean’s Twitter account was spicy until I think he got locked out. He recently claimed that Covid was a bioweapon and that 5G is a spying tool, also he likes Richard Nixon, is pro electoralism. I may be misstating but he also may think Israel did 9/11
None of them are bad, but I've found most that I have listened to incredibly boring since it's seems like a load of trivia used as riff fodder and I don't find any of them uniquely funny. I did really like their Seinfeld episode since they all seem to have a chip on their shoulder for him and seemed genuinely interested in the topic.
I'd just look for someone you want to know about and start there. I feel like it probably makes a difference if you care or at the very least know about the person they are talking about.
Wait, I think they did a theranos one, that was good iirc.
