"Why yes, my overpriced fake leather nostolgiabait shoes that have nothing in it, dont come in wide, and gives people pla tar fasciitis is muxh better than the other overpriced fake leather hipsterbait shoe!!!!"
And then kids will literally screech in the damn store if they dont get their shitty nike shoe, becayse its about the NAME of the BRAND!!!
FUCK OFF SNEAKERHEADS YOU ALL SUCK!!!
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Listen, it doesn't hurt to avoid ableist language. You can absolutely still insult someone without it. "Dumbass" does not have to be a load bearing part of your vocabulary.
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Skill issue
And in what way has that killed similar spaces?
There's a difference between being rude and being ableist. Why do chuds suck? It isn't because they're not smart, which wouldn't exactly be in their power to change were that the problem.
It's because they're hateful, closed-minded, unwilling to listen, immature, reactionry, cause tangible harm to our comrades, and stand in the way of any progress or revolution. They choose to do these things and can choose to do different things.
Isn't "harmless insult" like an oxymoron or something
It might be if you’re 4 and someone called you a poopy head
No.
I didn’t say anything about the word dumbass. The word used has a very different connotation than the word dumbass and a different meaning
"Dumb" actually can be argued to be ableist in its etymology since it comes from people who couldn't speak (similar to "Lame"). If anything dumb is worse than stupid is.
I wasn’t thinking about it being in the word. Yeah, I agree with you. Don’t use either
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I don’t feel bad at the prospect on losing insults with a history of bigotry behind them
There’s a history of bigotry behind every word in the English language. It’s a language made by and for bigots. A language forged in the fire of colonial world domination and liberal rationalism that justified it. I’m sorry but you will never escape using words that have a history of bigotry behind them if you speak English and live in the west. If you keep cutting out words you will just be left stunted and unable to communicate without sounding like a total dork and still be speaking the language of colonizers anyway, just speaking oddly.
To be clear, this isn’t a carte blanche to just drop whatever slurs you want. You obviously still should be mindful to not be insulting and offensive and gross. However, where are the massive populations of people who actually, really think that “stupid” is akin to the n-word or something and a slur? Nobody actually thinks that.
Obviously it’s not as bad as the n-slur. But that doesn’t make it good. The issue isn’t the hisotry of the word so much as the current implications. I’m not a fan of the idea that we have to attack someone for intellectual levels over what they are saying. Maybe I’m tired and not analyzing this correctly but right now, this is what I would think of
I agree with this, but you don't.
So which is it? Does historical etymology matter or does current use and meaning? Again, the vast majority of people do not find "Stupid" to be a bigoted phrase associated bigotry. The current, descriptivist definition in how it's actually used is not bigoted so you criticized it on it's history. Then you say the history doesn't matter but how it's used?
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It is probably better in the long run if we develop ways of expressing ourselves without insults tbh
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"You can't do anything if you can't do everything"
You sure sound like a chud, or a redditor.
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Yes, that would be better we should be working to that.
Well, I appreciate the sentiment even if others don't and they do raise concerns which need to be addressed. In linguistics you can do a "linguistic corpus analysis" which is sorta seeing historically how language was used. If it's unambiguously used towards say disenfranchised individuals, or towards a group of people who are the ire at the time (think muslims or anyone from south asia or the middle east post 9/11, if there's a huge spike in usage with sentences including the word 'muslim' or 'terrorist', etc.) I think there's a good argument to be made. Otherwise it seems difficult to convince others it's a good idea.