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Bad take, Bob.Actually, his next tweet makes it clear that he's saying these guys are far worse than cops:
The men who are on teams like this are people who have no flinch response to physical violence. They exist to break human bodies. Their job is to destroy people.
Folks are biting off more than they can chew here. That is my opinion.
A war correspondent seeing trouble brewing when unarmed protesters go up against trained killers? I don't see the issue here.
What? It'd be like Russian peasants protesting against the Tsarist government in front of the Oprichnina. Nothing can go wrong.
doesn't Robert Evans claim to be an anarchist? recently I mentioned him as a borderline op and someone corrected me saying there's nothing borderline about him, just posting to tell that person they were right. only a fed talks like this
NED is the relevant one here. They also pushed the narrative of gas attacks in Syria which directly lead to American missile strikes.
I gathered a couple of links re bellingcat here if anyone's curious. Has there been anything more thorough written about them?
A lot of radlibs claim to be anarchists
It's almost certainly a controversial take but I genuinely think Matt's "anarchism is the highest stage of liberalism" thesis is accurate. I think it's why it so easily translates sideways into utopian right-libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism.
I think "anarchists" should spend more time around anarchists imo lol
These ideas grew out of the Enlightenment; their roots are in Rousseau’s Discourse on Inequality, Humboldt’s Limits of State Action, Kant’s insistence, in his defense of the French Revolution, that freedom is the precondition for acquiring the maturity for freedom, not a gift to be granted when such maturity is achieved. With the development of industrial capitalism, a new and unanticipated system of injustice, it is libertarian socialism that has preserved and extended the radical humanist message of the Enlightenment and the classical liberal ideals that were perverted into an ideology to sustain the emerging social order. In fact, on the very same assumptions that led classical liberalism to oppose the intervention of the state in social life, capitalist social relations are also intolerable. This is clear, for example, from the classic work of Humboldt, The Limits of State Action, which anticipated and perhaps inspired Mill. This classic of liberal thought, completed in 1792, is in its essence profoundly, though prematurely, anticapitalist. Its ideas must be attenuated beyond recognition to be transmuted into an ideology of industrial capitalism...Libertarian socialism is properly to be regarded as the inheritor of the liberal ideals of the Enlightenment.
-Chomsky, For Reasons of State, 1973
Anarchism is hyperliberalism. Uber idealism and individualism. It’s the peak social bourgeois social theory.
Not sure what this post is trying to say. He's saying that they're worse than cops, in that they actually know how to cause the most harm possible.
He's done journalism in war-zones. Of course he's worked with the feds.
I still don't understand what I am supposed to garner from this tweet. He's saying very openly that he's worked with feds before, and that these people are bad. You need to create a narrative otherwise you look like you're screaming at the sun.
You linked a "wikispooks" article and then edited it away. Which seems to be where you are getting a lot of your ideas from. If you think it's a valid source, then just link that instead of just posting some tweet from some writer.
Robert Evans talks about various evil things the US has done in other countries all the time. This includes recent stuff like US actions against Venezuela and Colombia. So, to be clear, your position is that Evans gets money from the federal government to make him say occasional positive things about the US in regard to current events while criticizing all of their past actions? That's pretty farfetched.
At least criticize him for being an anarchist or something real.
What you said doesn't match up with what I said. Do you thing he does this because he gets money from tHe FeDs, or because he has bad politics, or because he is uneducated. The last two aren't really that bad.
Chauvinists gonna chauv
They got into politics to feel good about themselves and pursue their own pleasures. Now you are going to scold them and make them feel bad and force them to confront their own complicity in imperialism?
This isn’t what they signed up for.
This tweet doesn't enforce any of those points in your narrative. "War journalist has worked with feds before and says the feds are bad" doesn't help your cause.
If your point is to make fun of a war journalist for admitting to have worked with the feds in the past. Okay? I guess?
I just think it's a bad post. If you want to dunk on him, that's fine, but you can do better.
Yes this is about ethics in Chapo.chat posts! That’s the relevant issue at stake, how good the post is! Not the overall point that leftist chauvinists and opportunists are imperialist apologists and a lot of you don’t care
His next tweet makes it clear that he's saying these guys are far worse than cops:
The men who are on teams like this are people who have no flinch response to physical violence. They exist to break human bodies. Their job is to destroy people.
Folks are biting off more than they can chew here. That is my opinion.
I don't want to outright defend him, but I like him. I think he did good work reporting on the Portland protests, and Behind the Bastards was a step on my way towards radicalization. He also does good work investigating right wing movements, so I don't know... critical support?
Robert Evans has done more in the past year covering Portland, as well as exposing far right terrorist plots, than anyone on this site just sitting on their ass posting. Critical support indeed. He's actually doing something useful and putting his ass on the line while doing it.
I have only ever heard the “X has done more praxis than tankies ever have” from libs when defending libs. Make of that what you will
If you are getting your leftism introduced by a fed you will have fed tendencies. How about we have good podcasts not hosted by feds? No? Not possible?
Relax, comrade. I listen to a healthy amount of Citations Needed, no need to purge me yet.
How about we just purge Robert Evans and call it a day?
Stop propping up opportunists and defending their distortions
Him and the "Drone Tankies"/Ex-DoD anarchist just makes me fucking laugh at twitter leftists
