Like, I see this very frequently here. People are making some really nasty "jokes" and endlessly complaining about white women and white girls etc, and it's just so obvious so much of the time that the "white" thing is just a facade to hide the sexism. Like seriously, when you make jokes about how girls fuck dogs or whatever, but you specify WHITE girls, it's still garbage incel humour. It's always white women this, white women that. Like, why do you feel such a pressing need to specify they're women? At times like this it just shows how male this sub is. And not just male, but also very white, which makes it even cringier when people do le epic white women thing.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      1·
      4 years ago

      Good post, just want to add the dog fucking "jokes" is definitely an incel meme, google the dogpill if you want to ruin your week.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Seconding this, if you've ever seen a site like 4chan, the nexus of inceldom, the incel content is h e a v i l y bound up in racism.

            • SerLava [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah that's really interesting.

              Someone said every otherwise stupid ideology uses a partial truth as a hook- some narrow area where it's actually more correct than mainstream thought. That must be the incel hook.

              They're very aware that personal appearance is a highly unforgiving and influential aspect of human life. And for many people, they're right - their appearance might be ruining their lives, and nobody wants to acknowledge that that's even possible.

              Funny thing is, because the individual members are generally hetero men, they have no way of judging their own appearances. So a lot of them look fine lol! Even good, generally not 10/10 hot because they would notice, but sometimes pretty hot.

              But the ideology is kind of developed and sharpened by those members who really are quite ugly, like maybe they have a congenital problem, injury, or are overweight etc. Since everyone is just atomized sitting at their computer, everyone starts thinking about themselves like they were born with a really socially debilitating appearance.

                • SerLava [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Yeah bit of both, I agree the body dysmorphia is the primary cause, but also it's durable because of their monoculture

      • KurdKobein [any]
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        4 years ago

        google the dogpill if you want to ruin your week.

        Man, incel wiki is legitimately hilarious. The combination of idiotic incel lingo, scientific jargon and quotes from studies and what not makes me lose my shit.

        It is basically "Ben Shapiro asking for AOC feet pics" the wiki.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
          1·
          4 years ago

          Person deleted their post.

          https://hexbear.net/post/54884/comment/528746

          CW: incel shit

          The post was something like "inside you are two dogs. You are a white women" or similar

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah I'm unironically thinking of starting an Anti-Incel-Aktion bit account similar to the VolcelPolice. I understand alienation under capitalism is a fuck but we need to stay clear of incel talking points

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      but white women have literally tried to ruin my life. again, just my experience but yeah

      So I remember a lot of people talking about the whole "Karen" meme about white women being nasty to service industry people was low key misogynistic because it focused on white women. But I'll echo this sentiment, customers of all stripes can be awful, but white women do seem to have this bizarre vindictiveness and cruelty that make them stand out. Men will yeah their heads off and and become angry red and nude, but seem to forget about it after a few hours. White women will go on weeks long vendettas against some 19 year old dude who ordered her the wrong sized canning jars, to the point they'll figure out what high school he went to and start sending emails to the principal about how he "sexually harassed" her (true story).

      • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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        4 years ago

        White women being vindictive and cruel towards service workers is the gendered version of white men doing all that they do.

      • Sus_fecal_testes [it/its]
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        4 years ago

        Lets use some chud logic here and take that same anecdote and apply it to other ethnicity+genders. "Indian men tend to do this" "Mexican women seem to do____ negative thing".

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      i will also say though that ive posted here (the old sub really) many times bringing up the racism in the sub and was slammed with dms calling me the n word.

      Really? Was it Chapo posters or random reddit weirdos lurking/stupidpol?

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I feel like early in its life, Chapo could've either gone the Cumtown/stupidpol brocialist route or been a place of genuine solidarity and I'm very glad it broke the latter way.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Wait what does closing the sub as a joke have to do with CTH2?

                • TheOneTrueChapo [comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  CTH2 was made after a struggle session about gun control (in ye olde days when a lot of CTH posters were genuine libs) and pro-gun people split off, but it never sustained itself and was already a Garfield shitpost sub by the time the sub closing happened

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Idk, I think I was around when it closed and I believe CTH2 was already a thing. But I'm not sure.

        • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I'm glad you've found this site to be better, and I hope you keep calling racist shit out when you see it. White feminism definitely has a LOT to answer for.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah that's my impression too. Lots of weirdos lurked on the reddit sub. I don't miss them.

      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I mean it's insanely easy to make an account here, and mods don't see DMs so there's probably a number of trolls and CHUD fucks derping around here waiting for opportunities to DM racist shit

    • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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      4 years ago

      I thought the whole "white women fuck dogs" thing was just a commentary on the fact that many of them care more about dogs than they do about most people, not saying they literally fuck dogs

        • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
          1·
          4 years ago

          That's actually the exact opposite. The "joke" is that white women are so self-centered and picky that they would rather fuck dogs then men, of any race.

            • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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              4 years ago

              White men think the same thing about women of color, big time. A big part of that is because interracial dating still has a "taboo" element, people who date across racial lines are more likely than average to be into "taboo" things.

              Every race of men thinks that other women are "loose" compared to their own. That's ancient tribal possessiveness.

                    • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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                      4 years ago

                      That's probably why we see things the opposite, haha. There's a general sexist "loose other" stereotype that exists everywhere. Men in Latin America/the middle east think that blondes are easy. White men who go to Asia think it's like a sexual buffet with the locals or tell disgusting jokes about "spicy Latinas" or black women being baby mamas. Lots of gross fetishization on all sides.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          4 years ago

          Noted. I wasn't using that phrase anyway, but I'll make a point of not using it in the future as well